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Vote for the change you want to see.

The Republican party got remade because trumpists showed up and outvoted the party elites. No reason it can't happen for the Left except for laziness and apathy.

If all the progressives furious about the state of affairs now had shown up for Sanders in 2016, I doubt we'd be in this hellish timeline. Sadly, he needed the young progressive vote to show up.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Fair. The state by state process seems so weird to me. (So, we should vote more folks into the DNC and change it! There's a theme here somewhere...)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Expecting to change the system from within is laughably naive. We still can't pass legislation to replace the electoral college, 24 years after Al Gore got cheated.

Shouting down people who try to talk about real problems with "Well then I guess you should've voted!" is obnoxiously unhelpful. Bitch, I fucking did vote, and the problem is still here, so what now?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

"I voted and things are STILL bad? I was promised everything would change if I voted!"

See how silly that sounds?

Trump radically remade the GOP because his people showed up and voted. Sanders could've if we had voted.

If you can't even get enough people on the Left to show up and vote for a progressive, how on Earth do you expect to enact more radical change?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

So are you admitting that voting alone isn't enough? That you can't just promise everything will be solved by voting?

Because then I'm asking you to stop shouting down the voices of those us feeling disenfranchised by a rigged system.