this post was submitted on 31 Oct 2024
487 points (90.4% liked)
Political Memes
5414 readers
5886 users here now
Welcome to politcal memes!
These are our rules:
Be civil
Jokes are okay, but don’t intentionally harass or disturb any member of our community. Sexism, racism and bigotry are not allowed. Good faith argumentation only. No posts discouraging people to vote or shaming people for voting.
No misinformation
Don’t post any intentional misinformation. When asked by mods, provide sources for any claims you make.
Posts should be memes
Random pictures do not qualify as memes. Relevance to politics is required.
No bots, spam or self-promotion
Follow instance rules, ask for your bot to be allowed on this community.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I get that tswift is a billionaire, but she doesn't belong in this meme.
Quit trying to equate her to the oligarchs. She hasn't demonstrated any of those tendencies.
Nobody should be a billionaire. There is no labor that can be done to become a billionaire ethically.
I agree with this take and upvoted you. But she is a billionaire, and also a genuinely good person who's supported her fans, the people that work with her, etc. I don't think there should be any billionaires, and I suspect TSwift would likely agree with that.
That's the difference between her and the actual oligarchs pictured. They're scum of the earth. She's guilty of wage exploitation, but capitalism is designed around that idea, so she's just playing the game.
She's not off the deep end like so many other billionaires.
There's shades of gray here. We can agree there shouldn't be billionaires on principle, and also agree that not all billionaires are using their ill-gotten wealth for pure evil, like the other 3 pictured in the "meme".
Yeah, I also agree she doesn't really deserve to be in this meme. She's not as bad as the others on here. However, I suspect the original creator put her on the meme so this discussion could be had, which is honestly very smart.
At the end of the day, I think it should be criminal to hoard the amount of wealth that constitutes being a billionaire. I would "take action" against any and all billionaires given the circumstances, even Taylor Swift. Eat the rich. Distribute the wealth.
She belongs on the list because of this, and this.
This is practically jaywalking compared to the other people in this meme.
The point isn’t to subject them to gradation, it’s to note the damages they all do in their different ways.
Taylor isn’t exempt from being held responsible for her part just because she’s a nice person.
I mean what is she supposed to do, take a riverboat to her next tour? She's a direct result of a larger cultural fascination, not the problem itself.
I'm with you, she can't possibly take any form of public transport. Not because she's somehow better than the rest of us, but for security if nothing else.
And honestly, I can't imagine how much she would disrupt a public airport or train station. No way I would want to be in that place at the same time, it would be chaos.
The cultural fascination with her doesn’t demand that she use private jets to fly almost 200,000 miles a year.
Doesn't it though, imagine her trying to go through the airport. If people would leave her alone it would work out, but cultural fascination implies people will be fascinated. And therefore she, and every other person at the airport will end up delayed over and over and over.
I think the point being missed is that she takes unnecessary flights and uses too much fuel in doing so.
Look it up. She’s been scrutinized for it pretty publicly. And there are viable alternatives- she just seems to prefer not to use them.
There’s plenty she could do and tons of other acts throughout history that managed to do what she does with a smaller carbon footprint.
“She has no choice!” is not an argument to defend what she does.
Perfection is the enemy of good
Asking someone to reduce their carbon footprint isn’t asking for perfection. It’s simply asking them to participate.
And a blatant refusal to do so is what earned her her spot on this list.
I’m sure she’s a nice person- but being nice doesn’t excuse one from the responsibility of their actions.
I hope you're vegan lol
I can see the straw man that you’re trying to build, so I’ll just stop it right there and say that regardless of what I eat- I’m not putting the equivalent of 200,000 miles worth of jet fuel exhaust into the atmosphere as a single human being per year.
Also, veganism isn’t as environmentally friendly as your assumption would suggest- therefore from my perception, your argument is irrelevant.
And it’s clear that no ground is moving on either side of this debate, so I’m going to end this here and say that we can simply just agree to disagree on the topic.
Have a good day.
Yeah you want her to be perfect by your standards.
I don’t think you get to tell me what I want. That’s my job. She’s an human being, therefore she’s flawed. This isn’t up for debate.
I would only ask that she participate in reducing her carbon footprint. And I don’t care who you are… 200,000 miles a year in a private jet is excessive.
I do get to tell you what you are, a perfectionist.
And I get to tell you you’re wrong. Funny how that works.
https://www.newsweek.com/taylor-swift-private-jet-jack-sweeney-flights-1868272
13 minute flight to go 28 miles. Maybe a car might have sufficed?
Not defending her, but it's sorta ambiguous. It sounds like this may have been prep for selling the aircraft.
Per the article you linked:
You should, uh...reaaaaad.