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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (3 children)

It's really awesome to expel by nationality, even of people who've long moved out and immigrated years ago and don't support the invasion and war waged on Ukraine /s

Honestly fuck Russia ofc, but this goes a bit too far into the grey area between hawkish-reasonable and discriminatory, and on the latter side I'm not sure who and/or what this is meant to help, nor does it seem particularly fair to those individual contributors to keep their code yet remove attribution and mailing list entries.

EDIT: holy shit the bloodlust in the comments here is actually unreal, even on arr slash neoliberal and the politics communities here on lemmy the comments are way more sane.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Why are people so fundamentally incapable of nuanced judgement. According to people in this comment section, a human is entirely defined by their country of origin. What is this witch hunt level, toddler IQ thinking. Are people really so desperate to have a "bad guy" that they can blame everything on? This dehumanization of people is wild to me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

a human is entirely defined by their country of origin

This reeks of Americanism, yanks are absurdly obsessed with race and nationality

[–] [email protected] 1 points 45 minutes ago* (last edited 44 minutes ago)

The irony of your comment is not lost on me.

But yeah if you were to measure a country by its loudest voices then that would be accurate.

[–] freeman 2 points 32 minutes ago

It's disappointing behavior by Linus. It's understandable that sanctions could force the removal of people just for being Russia.

His reply however shows he personally is in favor of removing people just for being Russian.

I wonder if any of the people who pressured him to take some time off for being a "jerk" will give a shit for this response.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 47 minutes ago (1 children)

Russia represent Russian citizens the same way the US represent US citizens. If you're an US citizen and you think US international actions look bad on you then tough luck. Being a citizen of a specific state comes with its own responsibilities and consequences. If Russian nationals have long moved out of Russia and migrated elsewhere and don't support anything Russia does, why are they still Russian citizens? If they don't want to get sanctioned and they've long migrated from Russia they should apply for citizenship elsewhere. If they choose to stay Russian citizens that's on them.

As for nationality vs citizenship. Nationality is too vague of a term because it can mean both citizen of a state and originating from said state. I'm pretty sure in this case the discussion is about people who are Russian citizens, not people who originate from Russia but are no longer associated with them. Using nationality only muddies the discussion.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 minutes ago (1 children)

Congratulation, you are part of the problem!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 minutes ago

So what are we supposed to do?

Not sanction Russia?

Apply sanctions on an individual basis?