A vote for Jill Stein, Cornel West, Oliver Chase, or not voting, is a vote for Trump. Palestinian lives don't matter to Trump, nor do they really matter to Harris; however in general, Harris will be better for Americans than Trump, so vote for Harris.
A vote for Jill Stein, Cornel West, Oliver Chase, or not voting, is a vote for Trump.
Just as a vote for Nader was a vote for Bush.
Imagine if Nader didn't run. Imagine there was no Green Party candidate for US President.
Gore would have probably won, and America would have been the better for it. Probably no Iraq war, maybe not even a 911. As a result Iran probably wouldn't be as strong, and Putin probably would have less to legitimately oppose about the US, and would himself be seen as less legitimate—indeed Ukraine might still be whole today.
A new Green deal would probably be in full swing.
Granted, Harris doesn't really care about Palestinians, and some elements of the Democratic party care even less; but Trump cares even less than Harris, and what he will do to the US will be worse.
So while Israel massacres civilians and steals more land, at least under Harris American women would still more easily get abortions, we will have fewer TGs committing suicide (maybe), and health care will be a little more universal.
Also with the 100% tariff on Chinese EVs, the Big 3 will be able to better produce good inexpensive cars (as they've been at least somewhat intending these past several decades), and fascism will have less of a hold on the US.
Therefore: vote for Harris.
If you are a progressive: vote for Harris.
If you are an environmentalist: vote for Harris.
If you are a libertarian: vote for Harris.
If you support voting reforms such as proportional representation, rank balloting, the abolition of the Electoral College, and/or more political diversity: vote for Harris.
If you are nauseated at the idea of voting for Harris: take a barf bag with you while you vote for Harris.
If you are a Palestinian-American who has a relative who was injured, maimed, or even murdered, in Gaza, you should still vote for Harris, because again, Trump doesn't care about them either, but at least you, as an American citizen, will get a better deal Harris than under Trump.
(I'm not entirely sure if I agree with all the above, but I find it hard to refute.)
"Democrats don't want to hold themselves accountable for how uniquely un-democratic their party is (internally)."
vague, unsupported take.
"If the Democrats can't win elections"
they can and did win against the most popular demagogue in US history a few years ago.
they can win just fine.
and if they don't, they don't.
It's an election.
"is this assinine supposition that they are owed your vote because you've got no-where else to go"
Yes, that's exactly the problem with this position.
this post forces upon two options to choose from and people should throw away their rights to vote so that they can support tribes rather than candidates or policies, which I agree is asinine.
"Yet its the voters fault when they don't vote for the candidate"
It's the voter's fault when they do vote for their candidate
I'm not sure what you're confused about here.
are you saying that because the US electoral system is corrupt you have to fight back with corrupt methods?
I literally can't tell what you're arguing by the end of that post.
Please don't do this each sentence is a paragraph writing style.
I separate by paragraphs and subject, rather than sentences.
Either way, I don't think I should oblige.
Keeping distinct points clear is a courtesy.
People have trouble following cluttered paragraphs.
You put one topic together as a paragraph. What you're doing now makes it harder to follow, not easier.
that hasn't happened, you're confused.
? Correct, you haven't put one topic together in a paragraph. Aka, that hasn't happened. And I'm saying you should put one topic together in a paragraph.
"you haven't put one topic together in a paragraph"
incorrect again.
you're requesting that I put several distinct topics together within one paragraph like that other person?
or you just don't understand the difference between topics?
how is reading multiple topics in one block of text simpler than reading multiple paragraphs?
Even if you have one topic, how is one wall of text simpler than organizing a lengthy analysis of the topic by category?
I have a feeling you two are making this up, I've never heard about people being as confused as you two claim to be by short, organized paragraphs in my life.
God stop writing like that, it's impossible to read. I have no idea where you got your ideas how to write but it's wrong.
And use Lemmy quotation markup.
haha, you have got to be making this up.
you literally separated your thoughts in your previous comment. how did you forget that?
what a weird thing to attack. you and presumably your alt account are the only two people who claim not to understand or have ever encountered paragraphs.
My radical ideas of using paragraphs to separate ideas?
have you literally never read anything in your life outside of blocktext social media posts?
books are going to shock you the day you crack one!
Different people have different views, so please do whatever you feel like, but I found it difficult to read what you wrote because of the style. I'm not asking you to change, but I want to let you know that your style may be good for some but bad for others.
"I found it difficult to read what you wrote because of the style."
because of disctinct paragraphs? color me skeptical.
you find a single block of text simpler to follow than reading separate statements organized by subject?
If this is true, do you have trouble reading every book and article written because they are not single blocks of text?
do you find single blocks of text somehow easier to read?
or:
"I found it difficult to read what you wrote because of the style."because of distinct paragraphs? color me skeptical.you find this single block of text simpler to follow than reading separate statements organized by subject? If this is true, do you have trouble reading every book and article written because they are not single blocks of text? do you find single blocks of text somehow easier to read?
Bruh I offered 3 legs of support, enough to build a table, stfu.
Yeah how did they do that? Because what I recall happening is that Joe Biden took significant steps to the left after beating Bernie on super-tuesday to build a winning coalition. Harris is running to the right of Biden on literally everything right now.
No ones' confused about anything, you just have wrong/ incoherent response.
"Bruh I offered 3 legs of support"
If one of those legs is your faith in the american auto industry, I eviscerated that a couple comments over.
nobody asked me about the other two.
"Yeah how did they do that?"
Trump lost because more people voted for Biden.
"you just have wrong/ incoherent response."
examples?
what are you confused about?
Literally the only person confused here, in both style and content, is you.
I'm making very clear, logical points and responding immediately and directly to comments from dozens of people, quoting them so that people can easily apprehend the context of my comments.
you are the only one who keeps complaining that you don't understand what you're reading or what very simple words and concepts mean.
You are confused.
You can ask for clarification on what you're confused about.
some people are picking it up faster; you need a little extra help.
go ahead and ask.
No I'm not. Other people are calling you out in this very thread for being obtuse.
There doesn't appear to be anything to understand because you are blithering.
"No I'm not"
you keep complaining that things don't make sense to you, but you won't ask questions about the things that are confusing you.
you are complaining about them instead of trying to find a solution.
"There doesn't appear to be anything to understand.."
you are confused.
that doesn't mean there aren't any ideas to understand, it means you are unable to understand them.
That's not a problem with the information; it's a problem with your comprehension.
Literally everyone responding to you is pointing out that you are both incomprehensible, irrational and blithering.
Its you fam.
"Literally everyone responding to you is pointing out"
that's just you, kiddo.
you've repeated it a few times since you first admitted your confusion, but those are reiterations of your own personal stumbling blocks and nobody else's.
https://lemmy.world/comment/13017813
https://lemmy.world/comment/13020763
aww, haha, you keep on digging, I'm sure you'll find something.
there must be a couple folks who have as much trouble as you do reading.
Good luck.