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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It seems so silly to me. Do plants not feel pain?

They do. I learned it first hand... You can call it stress if you like, but plants most certainly experience suffering

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Then you should definitely go vegan. A vegan diet comes with the least amount of plant deaths and plant suffering, since lifestock is being fed with billions of individual plants before being slaughtered. You can save all of them.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

No, I can't save them. Because systematic problems cannot be solved through individual action

That being said, it's bold of you to assume someone conscious of the suffering of plants isn't eating as sustainably as they can with the choices they have available

Also, this is about honey - honey production encourages freely planting wild fields rather than mono crops, and it discourages killing the bees. I don't share your moral system, but in mine this is about as good as it gets

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

That being said, it’s bold of you to assume someone conscious of the suffering of plants isn’t eating as sustainably as they can with the choices they have available

Oh so you are a vegan?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

No, I just eat very little meat. Most of my meals are rice and beans with whatever veggies I have on hand mixed in, preferably locally grown. I'll also add in eggs sometimes, which unfortunately don't come from a local source because I don't have one anymore

And occasionally I go out for a burger or sushi, but I do it rarely and consciously. I enjoy it even more because of that And by framing it this way, I've convinced most of my friends and family to cut back and think more about their choices.

I don't subscribe to the vegan moral system, I find it often inconsistent and confused. Like here... What's best for the bees? What's best for the ecosystem? What's best for the humans?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Sounds like there is still some room for improvement in terms of "eating as sustainably as they can" then.

I don’t subscribe to the vegan moral system, I find it often inconsistent and confused. Like here… What’s best for the bees? What’s best for the ecosystem? What’s best for the humans?

Do you mean the vegan moral system is confused, or are you confused? Because not many vegans are confused about those things, that much I can tell you.

Right now you're voting with your wallet to increase an economic demand for the death of billions of innocent blades of grass. Not to mention dead animals - but we're not talking about them, that would be silly.