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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean its hard because if I had an example of an absolute truth then that would be proof of it. I could make an argument for existence but still hard to say I would meet the absolute requirement of it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What led you to use the example of absolute truth in the first place?

Its sort of more or an abstract noun rather than a specific case example one can engage with, no?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just that is was the answer to the question posed. Im sorta obsessed with truth and believe there is absolute truth but can't prove it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, would you consider something like "if X is true, then X is true" to be an absolute truth?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean I see what your getting at. The concept holds regardless of the existence of X but its rather meta. Im looking for something more about our reality. I mean absolute truth exists in terms of the words absolute and truth exist and can be put together as the concept but not with any basis in reality. Is it really a truth then? Superman exists as a concept for the writer and in the readers imagination but the character certainly fictional in our experiences. So you can say he is a truth in that he exists in concept but he certainly is not real.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So you're looking for absolute truths about our physical reality? You're right that it's impossible then, other than tautological or trivial truths like the above that rely on a conditional ("if that box really exists, then it really exists"). The possibility of reality being simulated, Boltzmann brains, Last Wednesdayism, etc. preclude unqualified absolute truths about our physical reality because our observations cannot be truly verified.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

yes this does seem to be the sticking point. Its why its hard to determine anything outside of the existence of ones perceived reality in relation to ones perception of it. That actually though is itself a pretty huge thing for me. The think therefor I am thing basically. Would be the closest I could come to an absolute truth.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good point, that is a statement about our reality-- or at least, yours.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah its more definitive that I exist (I being anyone cognizant) but less definitive that others exist. Which is frustrating.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Can you take a sec to imagine me extra clearly just in case you're the only one that really exists? Thanks