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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 month ago (4 children)

However, many other delegates were adamant that there be an indirect way of electing the president to provide a buffer against what Thomas Jefferson called “well-meaning, but uninformed people.”

How disappointed he would be to see his idea for protecting against decisions being made by the uninformed masses having been so subverted by the very system he supported.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

Any system that remains static for decades inevitably gets gamed by the powers that be. Sadly it seems we might be past the point of no return for this country…this election is everything

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The system he supported wasn't one where the House was capped at a limit causing the Electoral college to be skewed towards the minority.

Issues with the electoral college can be resolved by getting rid of the Reapportionment Act and moving towards Star or RCV voting. Both are significantly easier to do than passing an Amendment to get rid of the EC.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Working as Thomas Jefferson intended. The "well-meaning, but uninformed people" were those who opposed slavery and today oppose the land owning class.

[–] mindbleach 1 points 1 month ago

He also expected us to upend the whole system every couple decades. These people started a revolution. Enshrining their every decision, even centuries later, is the opposite of what they wanted.