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I have been house hunting for over a year. I don't have crazy requirements....I want a 3 bedroom house with a sub basement (tornadoes) and a fenceable yard within an hour of work.
The average price for that around here is 425k. A house that needs major work might only go down to 300k.
Down payment on a 300k house is 60k. A 240k mortgage plus taxes and insurance is $2100/month. $2100 is 30% of $7000. That's a $140k salary. The median income in my county is 78k.
I make above that, have 200k for a down payment, and am still struggling to find a place.
[Edit] fixed math
Might want to double check your math there. $2,100 is 30% of a gross $72,000 salary. That’s under your median income target.
You're right, I estimated 40% to taxes/insurance/etc and jumped to typoed it to 240k (which I then changed to 200k+ because of the estimate)
But the point remains that making the median salary only affords you a house in terrible condition. If something is listed for anything less than 400k, it's all but guaranteed that there's major structural or mechanic work needing to be done...
And it's not natural inflation - the houses listed for 450k today were 350-375k a year ago.
Are we talking gross or net income as the baseline? Before taxes, $7k a month is still under $100k annually.
Down payment is not $60k. That's only if you want to avoid PMI. That said, putting down less means several hundred more a month in payment.
Also, not sure how you are doing the math to get to a required $200k income. $7k/month is $84k/year. Even with taxes, that is a little over $100k.
It's not necessarily several hundred more for PMI. Mine was around $50/mo until I had it removed a few months ago.
7k a month is 84k a year, not 200k. I bought my house with similar numbers (house price, down, and monthly mortgage) and while I earn higher than average, I’m nowhere close to 200k.
~~$2100 a month for insurance? That might be more than my whole house payment. Paid pretty much nothing down on 175k in very late 2018 - house is apparently worth 350k now, but we're trapped because I can't/won't afford to move. I'm 85 miles from the office, but I WFH and it looks like I might have to go in about once a year.~~
Well that's what I get for not wearing my glasses...
I read it as 2100 all in, tax and insurance.
Lol no prob. I've always paid my taxes/insurance through my loan account so I do not think of them as separate expenses
I do not make 240k/year and it's looking like I'll have to pay $2400/month for all 3.
I should've known just based on the insanity of that rate, but I think there are places in Florida that are that much or even more, so I guess that's where my head was.
Maybe you are having a hard time finding a home because you are bad at math.
$7000/mo (even assuming take-home pay after insurance and 401k infusions, NOT gross salary) is more like $150k, not $200k. And that is in a high tax state like CA. $200k with 30% taxes is $140k, which is over $11k/month.