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[–] [email protected] 65 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (5 children)

If there's an offline game you love and play all the time, consider buying it again on GOG.com.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Soon, GOG and all other storefronts will state that you're purchasing a temporary digital license for any game who's publisher uses an EULA that states you don't own the game. This is due to the recently signed California law that forces storefronts to be transparent about the publishers EULA.

https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/26/24254922/california-digital-purchase-disclosure-law-ab-2426

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

But also with GOG you can download the installers and play offline. It's literally one of their big selling points. It's less convenient than things like steam, but you can do whatever the hell you want when you buy it. So in that regard, it literally is a purchase. Or as close as you can get with digital goods.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Depends on the game, they still sell DRM games which are limited in being able to be downloaded freely

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

That's not GOG works. Get your offline installers.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

On a legal level, it is how GOG works. They still only sell licenses. You just have the loophole that their installers and the games installed by them will work regardless.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

While that may be partly true, (also likely) depending on the county you're located, they're not able to revoke the license though.

So in this specific case you having the files makes a world of difference.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

unless you keep the offline installers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I mean at that point you can just make backups of your steam games too. A lot work straight from the exe and for the rest there are steam simulators.

[–] Kecessa 2 points 1 hour ago

A small minority of GOG games have DRM, a majority of Steam games have a form of DRM. "Use a simulator" isn't a solution, I shouldn't need a third party program to play the games I paid for.

[–] GhiLA 5 points 4 hours ago

Well, gentlemen. I guess we got this all sorted out. Not a big deal, after all.

[–] can 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

If I back up a DRM-free installer what's the difference?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 hours ago

If you back up the folder of a steam installed game that doesn't need steam to run, what's the difference?

Owning the copy in a legal sense doesn't affect most of the userbase tbh.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Legally, it's still a license, it's just effectively impossible to revoke.

Edit to expand on this: A truly offline forever-purchase of physical goods can be re-sold. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine (this is the US-specific version, other jurisdictions may have similar doctrines).

American legal concept that limits the rights of an intellectual property owner to control resale of products embodying its intellectual property.

A digital "purchase" is usually non-transferable, even from GOG. It can't be removed from your own HDD once you download the installer, but there are still restrictions attached on what you can do with it, even if those are limited and hard to enforce.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Just like any game ever sold on a CD.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Technically, probably yes, but you can buy old, opened games on eBay. I doubt you can do the same with GOG games. Digital media is much harder if not impossible to resell.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 hours ago

I would say, if you’ve purchased, just get a free version.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Also don’t forget to download the offline installers from GOG. I spent all of last week doing that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Is there a nice FOSS utility to do that? I need to do a backup of my GOG library.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 50 minutes ago

I did find a few on GitHub, but the one I tried had an error after a few downloads, so I just manually got them all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Nah, I'm good 😂