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TLDR:
Windows 11 v24H2 and beyond will have Recall installed on every system. Attempting to remove Recall will now break some file explorer features such as tabs.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

The difference between Linux and Windows is on Linux you're working with the operating system to make modifications and taking advantage of its vast resources (extensive wikis on major distos, terminal auto completion with fish and zsh, preconfigured defaults when installing through the package manager, etc). Meanwhile on Windows you're actively working against the system in order to disable unwanted features like AI and telemetry.

(Also I would recommend looking into Debian, the software may be a tad bit old but its the most stable distribution)

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Happy Debian daily driver here. I would never ever recommend raw Debian to a garden variety would-be Linux convert.

If you think something like Debian is something a Linux illiterate can just pick up and start using proficiently, you're severely out of touch with how most computer users actually think about their machines. If you even so much as know the name of your file explorer program, you're in a completely different league.

Debian prides itself on being a lean, no bloat, and stable environment made only of truly free software (with the ability to opt-in to nonfree software). To people like us, that's a clean, blank canvas on a rock-solid, reliable foundation that won't enshittify. But to most people, it's an austere, outdated, and unfashionable wasteland full of flaky, ugly tooling.

Debian can be polished to any standard one likes, but you're expected to do it yourself. Most people just aren't in the game to play it like that. Debian saddles questions of choice almost no one is asking, or frankly, even knew was a question that was ask*-able*. Mandatory customizeability is a flaw, not a feature.

I am absolutely team "just steer them to Mint". All the goodness of Debian snuck into their OS like medicine in a kid's dessert, wrapped up in something they might actually find palatable. Debian itself can be saved for when, or shall I say if, the user eventually goes poking under the hood to discover how the machine actually ticks.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Debian is probably one of the worst choices for someone looking to try Linux, especially for gaming.

Nothing better than setting everything up only to find you can't install some new thing because your xyz is too old

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I was on Debian Sid for a year or 2 and gaming was working perfectly until I did an update that uninstalled my GUI and WiFi drivers. I'm on Mint now and it's been smooth sailing so far

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Debian is always my first choice, but I'm not playing the newest stuff (Far Cry 5/7D2D/Ark/etc), while it hasn't been 'smooth sailing', I haven't found anything that just refuses to play.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Debian just looking out for their users making sure they don't waste time playing vidya.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Anyone whos new to gaming on Linux is probably using the Steam Flatpak, also stability is more important for newer users then a few utilities that power users (like myself) enjoy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Also I would recommend looking into Debian, the software may be a tad bit old but its the most stable distribution

I daily drive Mint, which is in the Debian family. Highly recommend it as it is geared for a 'works out of the box' experience for people. And the default UI (Cinnamon) is very familiar to Windows users. Complete with a task bar, tray, and searchable start menu.

Pure Debian is more of a server OS, and not something one should recommend as a daily driver. It's not deficient in that, but it takes a fair bit of work to get it up and running for daily use.