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After Missile Attack, Israel May Be Ready to Risk All-Out War With Iran (www.nytimes.com)

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Israel seems ready to respond in a much more forceful and public way with Iran after Tehran launched its second massive missile attack on Israel this year, analysts and officials say.

After Israel invaded Lebanon to confront Iran’s strongest ally, Hezbollah, and Iran’s second massive missile attack on Israel in less than six months, Israel seems ready to strike Iran directly, in a much more forceful and public way than it ever has, and Iran has warned of massive retaliation if it does.

“We are in a different story right now,” said Yoel Guzansky, a former senior security official who oversaw Iran strategy on Israel’s National Security Council. “We have a consensus in Israel — among the military, the defense experts, analysts and politicians — that Israel should respond in force to Iran’s attack.”

To many Israelis, there is now little to lose: Iran’s efforts to strike the urban sprawl around Tel Aviv crossed a threshold that Tehran has never previously breached, even during its earlier missile attack in April, which targeted air bases but not civilian areas.

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[–] Furball 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I think that if the democrats win this election there is a decent chance the US could start slowly pulling support. Right now, democrats have to be rabidly pro Israel or else they will lose the election, since unfortunately pro-Israel groups still hold a lot of influence over our elections

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I think that if the democrats win this election there is a decent chance the US could start slowly pulling support.

Why do you think that? Did I miss something perhaps? I haven't seen a hint from democrats during the past year up to now to support this claim. On the contrary, they actively send Israel tones of bombs and money to genocide Palestinians, and no matter what "red lines" the Biden administration puts on the matter, soon after they forget about them. And Harris (if I remember correctly) she said she will continue the same policy.

[–] Furball 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Right now they have to be pro-Israel since it’s election season and if they do anything less than give another 10 billion to Israel every week, republicans will accuse them of wanting to kill all Jews. After the election passes, there will be a lot less incentive for democrats to continue supporting Israel

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't understand this logic. You claim that the US is supporting by all means a genocide because it's election year and out of fear of being called antisemites by the republicans? Therefore, after the elections this genocide will not be supported by the democrats anymore?

I'm sorry, this doesn't make any sense to me.

[–] Furball 1 points 1 month ago

I’m not saying this is what’s definitely going to happen, I’m saying there’s a chance democrats lessen their support for Israel after the election since they won’t have to care about the (depressingly large) influence of pro Israel groups in our elections.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

This is what we professionally call "cope"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

pro-Israel groups still hold a lot of influence over our elections

I really wonder how much though. They seem content with either losing key swing states or even the election altogether as opposed to downgrading anything with Israel. AIPAC is strong, but surely they must have done vote prediction calculations.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I think the opposite. So far AIPAC is supporting both sides so it has the power to punish and make one side loose over a lack of support for Israel.

This concept needs to break for either party to change their support for Israel. If the Dems win they will understand that opposition to Israels crime is not important as it will not change the outcome, while they still fear AIPAC.