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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

Did anyone actually watch the video? She's upset that neither side represent what she deems acceptable.

She's young and doesn't understand that government doesn't get fixed in a day. Where we are is the result of influence from corporate stooges since Reagan. It's come to a boiling point and I understand her frustration. A vote for Harris is a vote for steering the ship towards what she deems is acceptable, but that ship sails slower than a lot people can understand.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 months ago (9 children)

She's not that young, she's been doing music for a decade and working service jobs till now. And you can understand something and still feel it is unacceptable.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

She's 26. That's fairly young for a voter. Not really sure what her cv has to do with being considered old.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Service industry work can build wisdom.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Idk about wisdom but I can attest to a speedy loss in faith of the human population.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Some would say that can be the same thing.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

I agree with the core of what you’re saying except I disagree that she “doesn’t understand” how slowly politics works. I think her decision to vote for Harris anyway speaks to that kind of understanding, else she’d endorse a third-party candidate/write-in in a poor attempt to speed-run democracy.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

She’s young and doesn’t understand that government doesn’t get fixed in a day.

I'm old and I'm still waiting for the government to be fixed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Abortion was illegal for 70-120 years depending on the state. It was 50ish years from the progressive era and the beginning of birth control to the ruling of Roe. Overturning roe was a 50 year political project by the right.

Sometimes it takes a lifetime.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We keep breaking it by voting for Republicans every now and then.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (27 children)

If Democrats ran every branch of the government at every level I still doubt it would get fixed.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

She's been getting a lot of hate for not endorsing Harris and people fail to realize the difference between endorsing and voting. Her entire point is that the government can't be fixed in a day. Voting for Harris is the obvious choice but her being in office isn't going to magically solve all our problems.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Except, by definition, she is endorsing Harris by publicly supporting her candidacy. Endorse doesn't mean you agree with everything they stand for, but if you are publicly saying who you are voting for, that's an endorsement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

A: this isn't really an endorsement, more than it is an acknowledgement of how fucked the options are. If you'd like to know the difference, go look at what Swifts endorsement looked like

B: she wasn't even going to say who she was voting for, but libs decided to harass her until she did

example: I use windows for work but i'm sure as fuck not going to recommend it to other people. Saying that i'm forced to use windows for work is not an endorsement. I'd go so far as to say that in this context it's more of a complaint or indictment than a endorsement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

She is telling the world that she thinks Harris is the best choice to vote for in this election. It's 100% an endorsement. Literally by definition. People seem to be confusing endorsing someone to marrying yourself to all of their views.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

declare one's public approval or support of.

Err, you working from a different dictionary?

This is why she resisted saying who she was voting for initially, and why she is explicitly saying she is not endorsing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What does voting for someone do if not show support for them? In a democracy it's the ultimate form of support.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (12 children)

Lmao, idk maybe go watch her videos, she is definitely not voicing support and certainly not approval

Just so I'm clear: you're saying that if I had a gun to my head and was forced to choose between getting shot or eating dogshit, and I chose dogshit, that would be considered an endorsement?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

The problem is she's trying to bring nuance to a bumper sticker platform.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I get it. I was young once and I’ve even had to have the bitter realization that even Revolution neither happens in a day nor resolves anything quickly. I ask for the passion of the young to hold hands with the wisdom of us older folks. It’s easy to demand sudden change, and important too, but building bases of power are important.

Vote for Kamala then hold her feet to the fire. Vote in every primary. Discuss what you think with people around you when it comes up, I know I’m the annoying pro trains girl at work. Build the support and make those maga losers afraid to show their faces.

And entertainers can do so much. Cobain got people who wouldn’t otherwise thinking of homophobia as uncool for example

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I know I’m the annoying pro trains girl at work.

Ugh, train people are the worst. WE GET IT, YOU LIKE TRAINS.

Edit: I genuinely thought this was a typo and they meant "pro-trans." But maybe they actually did mean "trains."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’m not cis passing enough to be openly talking trans issues at work. Nah I talk public transit. Shit like replacing air travel with high speed rail.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I also misread your comment as pro-trans, but we DO need more trains! So keep bringing it up, you are doing good work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah I hope cis people will speak up for me. I’ll speak up for public transport, it’s what engineers should be doing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

If it makes it better I’m also annoying about other infrastructure. Dams are excellent

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Are you significantly older than Chappell Roan? Because I'm imagining you're the one who doesn't understand something.

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