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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

governance need not be heirarchichal; I promote collective mutual determination as an egalitarian system by which society can organize.

I don't. I don't think all hierarchies are unjust, I evaluate them based on their effect on the world. If a hierarchy can solve a problem better, it's the preferable solution.

Everyone believes they are capable of behaving reasonably themselves. If they think laws and police are necessary, it is only because they don’t believe that other people are. But if you think about it, don’t those people all feel exactly the same way about you?

But what if we all have a different idea of what behaving reasonably means?

Anarchists argue that almost all the anti-social behavior which makes us think it’s necessary to have armies, police, prisons, and governments to control our lives, is actually caused by the systematic inequalities and injustice those armies, police, prisons and governments make possible.

That's silly. Systemic inequalities don't make people park their vehicles on the bike path or murder their wife because they think she cheated on them. If anarchism is all about thinking people are angels unless bad, bad oppressive systems make them do evil things they couldn't do on their own then I don't think we'll ever get along. It's alternate reality and an incredibly naive way of looking at the world and human nature.

Edit: could you kindly not respond to this? I don't have an option to silence this thread on my end, and don't want to hear about it any further.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Edit: could you kindly not respond to this? I don't have an option to silence this thread on my end, and don't want to hear about it any further.

So I have to ask... Why would you respond and then deny someone the same respect?