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A top economist has joined the growing list of China's elite to have disappeared from public life after criticizing Xi Jinping, according to The Wall Street Journal. 

Zhu Hengpeng served as deputy director of the Institute of Economics at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences (CASS) for around a decade.

CASS is a state research think tank that reports directly to China's cabinet. Chen Daoyin, a former associate professor at Shanghai University of Political Science and Law, described it as a "body to formulate party ideology to support the leadership."

According to the Journal, the 55-year-old disappeared shortly after remarking on China's sluggish economy and criticizing Xi's leadership in a private group on WeChat.

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[–] [email protected] 156 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (13 children)

If you think the Chinese economy is bad now, wait 15 years. No amount of sending economists to the gulag will hide this disaster.

Edit: tankie downvotes are like nectar of the gods to me. Your precious CCP will wither like a plant in the desert.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

I’ve already been banned from Hexbear. Bunch of assclowns over there.

Edit: and now lemmygrad

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's easy mode, since Rule 2 is basically "don't write a fact about China."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Well damn, I’ll try harder next time.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Arbitrary bans from overly sensitive mods? Straight to Jail.

Made a comment about tankies in lemmy getting mad over some news about China getting hit with influence ops by the US. Believe it or not, ban.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s okay man, it takes me a few seconds to scroll through all my bans. It’s funny because all these pro China dweebs are living in the USA. Can’t even commit to the bit and just sit there all day posting anti USA or western stuff. They are obnoxious.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

They are privileged children sheltered from reality by mommy and daddy's money.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago

What a stark example of Mao's legacy (look at the dip between ages 60 and 65).

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

What is this supposed to show?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This is what a healthy population looks like:

[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Even then, it isn't healthy, just healthier. The USA is still going to going to experience economic issues of a growing elderly population, it just won't be as bad.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

The US have the benefit of essentially limitless immigration that they can adjust at will. On the other hand, China's leadership, being Han supremacist, is not receptive to immigration at all.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Immigration definitely helps, especially compared to China. I'm just noting that there will still be some decrease in the ratio of retired workers to current workers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

The US have the benefit of essentially limitless immigration

glances at US immigration policy

Does it?

China’s leadership, being Han supremacist, is not receptive to immigration at all.

Wit drier than a lint trap.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Coming from one of the foremost resident tankies here, that's a glowing compliment. Thank you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Does it?

People still pay upwards of $10,000 US to get smuggled into the country that they will only work in for 4 years as basic farm and factory workers in a house of 20 people.

The world is a mess and America is the gold mines of california with no gold in it. But a lot of people are getting rich selling immigrants the shovels.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Have you.... have you seen how Americans have been talking about the border? Especially this election cycle? I don't know if would characterize either party's constituencies as "receptive".

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You realize there's more to immigration than the border between Mexico and the US, right?

I know they ignore it, but you don't have to follow along with them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

50 million immigrants in the US, and that data is 5 years old. Germany comes in second with 13 million. It’s not even close. I don’t see how a demographic crisis could happen, even if they hypothetically cut immigration in half

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

It's all talk. Corpos crave dirt cheap desperate immigrant workers and will make sure neither party messes this up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The US have the benefit of essentially limitless immigration

Except that even in the Americas the population is declining. There is a limit to it. The US can outlast many other countries because of immigration but it too has to face the same problem as everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Not really. They are the #1 immigration destination. If the US runs out of potential immigrants that means every other country is far worse off. This game is like the old joke about outrunning a bear: you don't need to run faster than the bear — you only need to be faster than the guy next to you.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

This is the new normal for highly developed economies. The best they can hope for is a 1 to 1 replacement of their population. We're not likely to see another baby boom occur.

We're not going to see a typical population pyramid any more. Because that means a large infant death rate and either war, disasters or a massive suicide epidemic cutting away the young adult population to get the pyramid shape.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

Given that the amount of habitable land will decrease causing mass migrations, you don't need a 1 to 1 ratio to maintain a population size.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago

Basically, yes. The sides are nearly parallel, which is great. Compare with China's, which forms a steep V. Once GenX hits retirement age they are completely screwed. The CCP's recent push for "traditional family values" and increased birth rates is no coincidence.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The birthing rates are only dropping, in 15 years all of those people will be to old to work but there are not nearly enough to replace them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Thank you for the clarification.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure, China will certainly collapse, as they have said since the 1990s.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

wtf is that chart?? Why does it look like that :0

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