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[–] [email protected] 104 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I can't wait for this AI bubble to pop.

I'm not saying that some parts of AI have utility - machine learning for medical scans will be a great thing for instance, but the "oooh new! shiny! venture capitalist, line-must-go-up" side of things can well and truly fuck off.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 19 points 2 months ago

Exactly. I'm bullish on AI, I'm not bullish on what the mass market media calls "AI."

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don't think it will pop.

Everyone is trying to get in on the ground floor for actual AI. True AI will be as revolutionary as electricity and online porn.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We are a long way off from true AI. You know how VR was a thing with the virtual boy and then the whole thing died for awhile until the oculus and vive revived the idea like 20 years later? And how VR is basically dead again because it's still not quite there? AI is basically like that. We'll get there eventually, but this current trend isn't going to be enough to get us to true AI. It'll go quiet again for awhile until there's some new approach that revives the hype again. Maybe the next phase will do it, but the current AI approach is a dead end from a true AI perspective.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You aren't wrong; but unlike VR, "dumb" AI has been added to so many devices, used so prolifically, and been invested in so much that it will hold until real AI exists.

AI has already written more on the internet than humans have. There is no reason to believe it is a niche product like VR.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

The bar of entry is also far lower. Something like chatGPT or Copilot is magnitudes cheaper and far more useful than a VR headset.

Additionally, large models AI don't make one physically sick with motion sickness, only mentally.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

AI has already written more on the internet than humans have. There is no reason to believe it is a niche product like VR.

The internet. Where it gets all it's training material?

This is not the brag you think it is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I don't think it's a brag. It's likely more a simple statement of Truth, or at least "near" truth Since the great majority of the internet is not available on a search engine and therefore is unlikely to have been found by an AI

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Can you explain what you mean? True AI? Like AGI or something else?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

They want Jane from Speaker for the Dead, they're going to get Skynet.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

True AI is a sentient program that can be creative and evolve it's own programming. Think digital human analoge, but it knows everything and is easily confused.

Current AI is a party trick performed by a search engine that phrases results in a conversation or a random data generator that can have a theme that informs a comprehensible image.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

True AI is a sentient program that can be creative and evolve it’s own programming. Think digital human analoge, but it knows everything and is easily confused.

We'll achieve fusion as an energy source before we develop what you're describing. If they're trying to get in on the ground floor that's pretty funny.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

everyone has a different idea of what true ai will be

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

AI isn't a very good descriptor, it's a catch all for a bunch of different tech. The media does a pretty poor job making that point so people are left to come to their own conclusions about what AI actually is.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

aaeven just a machine learning model capable of searching for information and accurately returning an answer with a list of references supporting the claims would be huge for many industries and individuals.

it could help replace customer service with a competent replacement (if the company actually spent the effort to provide necessary features to the customer ui), search through software documentation to help programmers, and hopefully be a better version of what google was.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

LLMs are kinda, sorta there already, aren't they?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Yes and no. They can do the job but they are too easily tricked and too quick to hallucinate to be able to reliably do the job.

Compared to a human after 8 hours of continuous customer support, you're going to have far more errors of a much greater variety and risk with any current llm models compared to any human that isn't actively attempting to destroy your company