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Trudeau says Ukraine can strike deep into Russia with NATO arms, Putin hints at war (www.ctvnews.ca)

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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says Ukraine should be allowed to strike deep inside Russia, despite Moscow threatening that this would draw Canada and its allies into direct war.

"Canada fully supports Ukraine using long-range weaponry to prevent and interdict Russia's continued ability to degrade Ukrainian civilian infrastructure, and mostly to kill innocent civilians in their unjust war," Trudeau told reporters at a news conference in Ste-Anne-de-Bellevue, Que., on Friday.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Don’t forget Vietnam and Korea.

The US is constantly enmeshed in wars, but when was the last time Americans actually won one? 1945?

That was 79 years ago. Almost one whole Biden.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Don’t forget Vietnam and Korea.

Vietnam and Korea were hot wars. My examples are proxy wars where the locals retiliated with "terrorism".

The US is constantly enmeshed in wars, but when was the last time Americans actually won one? 1945?

We're achieving our goals in Ukraine right now, as we did in all my examples above. The last time we lost was Vietnam, unless we're also counting failed coup attempts (2020).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

My examples are proxy wars where the locals retiliated with "terrorism".

Doesn’t that describe Vietnam?

We're achieving our goals in Ukraine right now, as we did in all my examples above.

Is your point that the US goes to war to fund the military industrial complex rather than to achieve victory? Because otherwise I’m not understanding your point.

I don’t think any of those conflicts (including Ukraine) went the way the US wanted them to.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

No. American and allied troops fought in the Vietnam conflict. Our strategy evolved in the Cold War and proxy wars. A proxy war is fought only with fiscal, humanitarian, and arms support.

For example, we destroyed Afghanistan in the 80's by supporting the mujahideen fighting against the Soviet Union: a proxy war. Unable to communicate what's been done, they resorted to extreme violence in September, 2001. So, we fucked 'em all the war back to 17th century religious persecution.

I'm a born American. I love so much about this country at the roots of the land and people I meet in it. But, it's totally fucking rotten at the top and we refuse to admit it. If we did then we'd have to do something about it. Then, it quickly becomes obvious that voting isn't going to do jack shit. That's scary as fuck.