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The National Association of Travel Agencies (ANAV) has commended a recent decision by the Judicial Court of the District of Braga, Portugal, which ruled against Ryanair for charging passengers additional fees for carrying cabin bags. ANAV sees this as a violation of consumer rights and highlights its ongoing efforts to address what it deems as abusive practices by Ryanair in Portugal.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Carrying a normal backpack and a small handbag should be included on every flight, but I can see a case for charging for those huge trollies that some pax insist on bringing into the cabin, or rather banning them from the cabin, forcing them into the hold, at the normal cost.

They take up too much space in the bins.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Less than 20 years ago check bags were free. Companies have been conditioning the consumer to assume more and more cost.

[–] VirtualOdour 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They're still free if you pay considerably more for the ticket like we had to twenty years ago regardless of if we were going to take that much luggage.

More efficient services are cheaper to get what you actually want, this is a good thing for everyone except those that sold over priced tickets

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In the US, ticket fares have gone down a small amount since bag fees began.

However, US airlines also stopped serving meals on domestic flights around the same time and seats have gotten smaller. It's hard to make an apples to apples comparison when they are providing less service and cramming more of us in. I also wonder if that fare decrease ignores BS like having to pay to select a seat unless you purchase a more expensive fare.

I agree it would be nice to have a more a la carte experience if the prices actually reflected that. I'm not quite old enough to have purchased my own tickets before the internet, so I can't remember if prices were as volatile then.

[–] VirtualOdour -1 points 2 months ago

They've gone down massively, I save enough flying budget to the US with only a rucksack to allow me to eat out every night of my first week and that's just compared to inclusive old fashioned style tickets - which by the way are still the most common option. My whole holiday normally costs less than the ticket price did 25 years ago, plus I fly from the most local Airport to the most local to my accommodation which saves time and money.

If you don't like us poors having options then sorry, you're welcome to pay considerably more for a shitty microwave meal and excess luggage you don't really need but I will be packing a sandwich, sitting a little uncomfortably, in whatever seat is given, using my phone instead of an in seat entertainment system, and not taking heaps of needless stuff.

Personally I'd love if they introduced flexible tickets where I book and they fit me on whatever flight has room within a window of a few days, and I'd love those double decker seats they invented to fit more people, racked compartments you lay in like a Japanese hotel would be amazing too if it fit more people on and lowered the shared cost of the flight.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

There are people who carry 50kg of fat on the plane, you can't bother me for a backpack. You can't bother them either as that would be discrimination

[–] VirtualOdour 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I love being able to save money by only taking my backpack. There's not room for everyone to use the overhead lockers so it makes sense for those of us who don't need to to save money.

This isn't a law to protect consumers it's to protect the air travel market from budget suppliers offering people the services they actually want.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

For a second I was confused about when I typed your comment.