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Biden seeks 'full accountability' after death of US citizen in West Bank (www.reuters.com)

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In a statement, Biden said that while Israel has taken responsibility for her death, the U.S. government expects continued access as the investigation continues over the circumstances of the shooting. "There must be full accountability. And Israel must do more to ensure that incidents like this never happen again," Biden said.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

This is genocide apologia/victim blaming.

Hmm .. so, there are a couple of quotes from figures serving in the IDF and such, which might be where you got that impression from.

Overall I didn't sense this from the article - which is trying to bring to light crimes being committed in the West Bank against Palestinians in the wake of Oct 7.

I think it's unacceptable that a kid going home from school is killed by a military sniper. It's not the kids fault and not the fault of the community he lives in.

I think it's worth drawing lines between these folks and the Hamas military/leadership, as well as the fighters from Hamas who participated in Oct 7.

Gaza resistance isn’t to blame for Israels being a genocidal apartheid towards Gaza

To quote myself,

It's a bit ironic, from what I understood at the time Netanyahu was forced into a coalition and losing power. Then the Oct attack happened and suddenly a bunch of folks stepped out of Netanyahu's way and gave him full control again.

Blame is a complicated concept involving responsibility and so forth. And it goes without saying that Netanyahu and his allies and enablers remain fully responsible for their choices and decisions and actions. I am just saying that Netanyahu regaining full power and control and being able to do the things that are now happening in Gaza and the West Bank are a direct consequence of Oct 7 - as otherwise Netanyahu wouldn't have been able to go this far.

and doubly so for the seperate region of the West Bank which Hamas doesn’t even control.

Sadly, it turned out this didn't matter. Once the chains folks were trying to put on Netanyahu got released in the wake of Oct 7, he and his forces came up with excuses to go dig in here as well.

for Israels being a genocidal apartheid towards Gaza and ... the West Bank

Again worth quoting myself,

Today there are many Israelites - including family members of hostages - who think things are going too far and that Netanyahu should stop.

Just as all Gazans and West Bank folks are not part of Hamas, not all Israelites are part of the IDF or on Netanyahu's side.

What happened on oct-7?

I think at this point, having read the article I sent, you've gotten the answer. But it's worth restating this point - Israelites who were sympathetic to the plight of those living in the West Bank and in Gaza do exist, and even recently they tried to exert their influence to put an end to this, see for example https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israe-hamas-war-netanyahu-strike-protest-ceasefire-hostages-killed-hersh-goldberg-polin/

But from https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israels-parliament-approves-national-unity-government-2023-10-12/

Israel's political landscape had been bitterly split for months over a hotly-contested push by Netanyahu's government to overhaul the judiciary that drove a wedge between the prime minister's religious nationalist supporters and more liberal, secular Israelis.
But the crisis has seen such differences buried [because of Oct 7]
"We will act, the enemy will hear," Gantz said in parliament after being sworn in.

So Oct 7 was a turning point - the folks that had the power to restrain Netanyahu gave it up after that attack and seeing their friends and family members murdered or kidnapped, and even today folks like Harris are reluctant to put the full brakes on Israel because of that attack.

The PA understood this, and hence condemned what happened, see https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/palestinian-president-says-he-rejects-killing-civilians-both-sides-conflict-2023-10-12/

Today there's no elections and thus the same opportunities to rein Netanyahu in don't exist.

But if they did, Israel would do it, see https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240913-poll-finds-netanyahus-coalition-would-lose-power-in-an-election/