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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The DNR doesn’t mean a damn thing until it is literally in your hands.

How does the DNR get into the first responder's hand in practice? Do you get an emergency call and drive there as fast as you can through red lights with your siren on only to be greeted by a relative that made the call handing you the DNR document?

But if the DNR turns out not to be real/legitimate

Are you responsible for validating its legitimacy while in the field, when every second counts?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)
  1. Sometimes, yes, many times a family member may call EMS to hand them the DNR, this ensures proper procedures are followed when dealing with the body, less mess, and a quicker certification of death. It may also be important in situations where the person is influencial or rich and ensures you cannot be accused of foul play.

  2. No, DNRs have certain things that make them official, signatures and notarized markings. Usually one person will begin life saving measures while the ither verifies the DNR. EMS never work alone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

EMS is such a worthy occupation. I admire EMS workers so much.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

For the first question. The responders will act exactly as if there is no DNR until you give it to them. Yes, that sometimes means wasted effort but it's better than the alternative.

For your second question, by legitimate I basically just mean that it's not written in crayon on a piece of notebook paper or something. Generally speaking the forms are pretty standard and issued by the healthcare provider. Generally you're just looking for a physicians signature and a date. Some states also allow DNR medical jewelry. The exact specifics on the DNR do vary a lot based on state and county so the local responders will know what they need for their area. As far as every second counting goes, that's why you have a whole ambulance crew.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

You've usually planned out the end with your partner/family/caretaker if you have a DNR and they would more than likely be ready to produce your DNR (and medical history) when you need to call an ambulance or go to a hospital for any reason.