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My personal wet dream would be the street you live on making the decisions for that street like building a traffic light, the block making decisions about say, the plumbing.
everyone voting in a direct manner every week or month via app. Our representative democracy has been corrupted a long time ago so it is time to change that.
You've just described an HOA.
This was what I came here to say.
My HOA is thankfully decent, but I know many have but had positive experiences.
When we're talking Lemmy instances, packing up and moving is one thing, but when we're talking residence, who's going to want their local dictator running things?
People like to hate on things like McDonalds or Budweiser and so on, but with that massive oversight and standardization, you gain a consistent product. With laws and their enforcement, it's nice to have that consistency.
Worry about red/blue states is bad enough, let alone if we're talking red/blue streets! Some things are better big and boring.
I wish. Sadly, voting on issues that directly impact you is not a reality yet.
Have you ever lived in a building block?
I don't know in other countries. In Spain we have horizontal property law, that means that a building block is managed by all it's members. Probably the same in other countries but IDK.
The thing is that it is a NIGHTMARE. We have not one, but two of the most famous spanish comedy shows are about how hellish building block communities are.
I know cases were old people have to walk stairs everyday because other members of the block refuse to put an elevator. I wouldn't want to know what would happen if a few buildings could just choose not to put plumbing, or not to put traffic lights.
And if I'm correct the US equivalent would be this communities in the suburbs that make "law" that you cut your lawns at 3 inches tall exactly every sunday a 7:03 am, exactly. And become extremely anal to everyone complying to their ridiculous aesthetic ideas.
People in small communities can be incredibly shitty. I feel like bigger communities tend to grant more rights to people and ensure those rights are applied.
That's totally unworkable. Almost everything in society would completely stop functioning
Okay. How did you arrive at this conclusion?
Because there are enough people who are selfish, short sighted, or disinterested, and an enormous number of things in society require coordination, long term thinking, and decisions made every single hour of every single day.
Okay, thanks for elaborating.
I agree. There are many selfish people out there. But they dont live in a vacuum. In a world where you have the repsonsibility for your surroundings, many people could rise to the occasion. Also, if a water pipe breaks in front of my home and you decide to vote against fixing it together, what do you think will happen to you, either when you need help or if Iโm vindictive, sooner?
We dont have anything to compare our living conditions to because we have never lived any different than now. We dont attempt to test self governed communities. What do you think why that is?
One hint that shows me that it works are coops. They work without central oversight because its not the oversight that makes us interact but our own intellect.