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what's up with the ToS changes regarding the vegan community? (self.outoftheloop)

submitted 3 months ago by Varyk to c/[email protected]

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What happened in the vegan community?

I hadn't heard about any of this until seeing that ToS post.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

But aren't you the one advocating that this is okay? Why do I need a trigger warning for something so deeply and obviously ethical?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

your deeply biased YouTube video is notoriously traumatizing, with the production house that made it providing aftercare tips. viewers report sleeplessness, nightmares, vomiting, lack of appetite and depression.

you are acting irresponsibly

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't have a problem with openheart surgery, but I don't link videos of it without a tag

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I feel like I'm being trolled right now. It's a documentary which is expressly about the extensive, systemic animal abuse that happens in the industry, and the first instance of that is over 5 minutes in. Did you not expect gore? Is this not like the most fundamentally obvious thing you could possibly expect from such a documentary?

Edit: oh, comment history tells me that I am being trolled. Interesting. Have a nice day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I know all about your YouTube video, but unsuspecting people could be triggered, and it is your responsibility to warn others when you endanger them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They're just filming what you paid for. You should've warned the camera crew of the documentary before endangering them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I didn't send them to make it. I didn't pay them or anyone in the YouTube video.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

So you're telling me that you didn't have to give the filmmakers a trigger warning that they'd see the animal abuse that you pay for and actively advocate for paying for? That in much the same way one might expect animal abuse going into a documentary on animal abuse, the filmmakers might have expected animal abuse going into the animal ag industry? Peculiar.

Your arguments are bad-faith nonsense, and I'm disengaging from this clownish conversation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

your accusation of bad faith is, itself, bad faith, and does not undermine the truth of anything I've said, nor does it relieve you of responsibility to protect people from a danger you have created.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

I have never paid for animal abuse. most people don't

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

calling me names doesn't relieve you of responsibility, nor make anything I've said untrue