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Because Lemmy.ml is federated with anti-leftist instances like Lemmy.world and Lemmy.ca. Lemmy.ml has a weird mix of very pro-Leftist posters and very anti-Leftist commenters because of this, people tend to post more on their own instances but often times scroll by all for commenting.
More self-sufficient Leftist instances like Hexbear or Lemmygrad don't see the same circumstances.
Why are liberals on a decentralized platform anyway? Surely the free market has provided adequate platforms for everyone's needs
The Liberals on instances like Lemmy.world are too ideological to stay on Reddit, but have read no Marxist Theory and have not correctly identified the reasons why Reddit went wrong, and was always destined to go wrong. If they were Leftists, they would join an instance that doesn't defederate with Leftists as policy.
That's why Lemmy.world is just Reddit 2.
They left reddit to teach them a lesson for changing the recipe of their favorite capitalist treat, but have given no thought or import to the decentralized nature of the platform they left it for.
While I basically agree with this, I would argue there may be some liberals who just haven't been exposed to actual communism/been too heavily propagandized and seeing the discourse on very left instances could gain some supporters. I guess this specific post comment section is maybe a bad example, but I would venture a guess most leftists were liberals once
This is the case for the great majority of us socialists on Lemmy, yes.
Reddit took away their precious apps, that's the only reason. They have no problems at all with its western-supremacist political aims.
I’ve noticed “leftists” on Lemmy are reeeeaaallly confused about US politics.
Don't cheer for Communism (or China) , means to be anti-leftist??
Since when?
Yes.
Since the Paris Commune.
Lemmy.world directly opposes Marxism, and Marxist instances. That's an anti-Leftist stance. Liberalism is the status quo, which is Right-Wing.
I don't agree. Lemmy.world opposed (very)exaggerated extremisms of all the kind so far. One of the first post i've read on lemmy one year ago was about the defederation of some nazi instances. Nothing is perfect but calling lemmy.world anti-Leftist is a bit of a stretch.
Not if you have rigorous definitions of terms. You can't call yourself a leftist and be anti-communist. The desire to abolish capitalism and move to a communist society is the defining trait of the left. The only distinction between tendencies is the method they wish to pursue that goal.
The problem with debates like this is that the only people participating in it who actually know what they're talking about are the communists.
Lemmy.world is explicitly against Marxism, they defederated from Lemmygrad and Hexbear because of this, and sabre-rattle about defederating from even Lemmy.ml. This is anti-Marxism, plain and simple.