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Accidental birth in a non Schengen country. What next? (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I’m on vacation in Türkiya and wonder: what happens when let’s say a pregnant woman goes on vacation and for whatever reason gives birth there.

How can she take the newborn back to her country? Need to prepare all the papers in the embassy or there’s some special procedure for such cases so the paper work can be done in a country she resides normally?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is especially weird because the Netherlands does not normally permit dual citizenship.

It seems like many (most?) countries don't like/recognize dual citizenship. The way it ends up working is that each country doesn't have the power to tell the other country that someone isn't a citizen. Each country just enforces it's own citizenship within it's borders. If you had US/Netherlands citizenship, and use a Dutch passport to try to enter the US, you will probably get yelled at by customs if they realize that you are a US citizen. They can't stop you from entering the US but they can hold you for a while and pester you.

If you have a US citizenship but live in another country, most of your income will be exempt from US taxes (unless you are a millionaire, in which case you probably aren't paying many taxes anyway).

A similar thing happens with countries that have mandatory military or civil service; you can be required to travel back to serve.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The US actually requires that you pay taxes to the US based on your income in the foreign country unless they approve of you being exempt.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

The first $120k is exempt, though, so unless you are bringing almost $1/4 million a year, the majority is not taxed.

https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/foreign-earned-income-exclusion

There's also tax treaties that can make things more convoluted.

[–] Tar_alcaran 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Netherlands is especially anal about dual Citizenship. When you gain dutch citizenship, you must give up all others, and the when you gain other citizenship, you must give up the Dutch one.

The only way to be a Dutch dual citizen is to be from a place that won't let you give up citizenship (Turkey is famous for it here), or to be born to parents with different citizenships. (Or to get grandfathered in from before the laws got this strict)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I think you also get to keep it if you get citizenship through marriage