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https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/26/politics/cnn-poll-gun-laws/index.html
That's difficult to say because they don't say what the question is. It could be as simple as "do you think common sense laws to keep guns out of the hands of criminals/children/immigrants are a good idea" or it could be even more weasely. Without knowing the actual question the survey results are meaningless.
The survey is directly linked. If you were actually interested in "What the public wants" you could have easily clicked the link and found out for yourself what the question is, the results, and what the results have been in previous years. Seeing as actually informing yourself seems like too much effort, here is the question asked:
People were free to interpret that however they want, and 64% of people said they were in favor.
Didn't see the link. Well, people are getting more and more brainwashed, so I'm not surprised. Honestly, when the news calls every shooting near a school a school shooting and goes on and on about how there's hundreds a year it's not a surprise the ignorant masses are fooled.
So you're concerned about what the public wants, until it is shown that the public very much does NOT want the thing you want, and which point you immediately know what the public REALLY wants better than they do.
I'm concerned (reasonably) that mass media and constant misinformation/disinformation campaigns on social media and other platforms are changing peoples' minds not with facts but with lies and deception. I don't think this is controversial.
So am I, that's why a third of people oppose stricter gun control laws. Without the constant misinformation/disinformation campaigns on social media and other platforms it would be over 90% in favour of stricter gun control laws.
You see how that works? You didn't actually present an argument, you just assumed you are correct without any need of supporting your claims, and the argument goes nowhere.
The fact that the media reports shootings in the vicinity of schools as school shootings to pump up the numbers is evidence on my side.
Evidence for what? That people don't want what they want? You have provided no evidence that people don't actually want what they say they want, and no arguments as to why they shouldn't want that. For someone that was previously so concerned about "what the public wants" you are pretty quick to dismiss what the public wants.
https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018/08/27/640323347/the-school-shootings-that-werent
And what does that have to do with you claiming people don’t actually want what they say they want, or why they shouldn't want it?
You don't listen. I never argued against your claims that school shootings were over reported, but that is the argument you have primed so you ignore what's actually being said.
Also: "It's okay guys, there were 11 school shootings 2015!" Is a bizarre argument for why there shouldn't be more strict gun control laws in place.
It was just an example of highly exaggerated "news" pushing anti-gun opinions. It's also extremely obvious so I thought it was a good thing to point out. It's all part of the won't someone please think of the children angle to try and convince people to give up their rights. Don't get me wrong Fox News is absolute shit but that doesn't excuse the other side telling lies.