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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

We simply need money.

Give me 3x my finances and I'll have 2 kids.

Edit: There appears to be a significant lack of education in this comment thread.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

not if the cost goes up 3x to. give me enough for a house and yard and reliable car or make reliable transit where the house is and enough for the family to eat healthy with some spoilage treat behavior and get them standard stuff like a laptop and have decent chance for a good educaton and in my case make me 30 years younger.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Money is not enough, especially if both parents have to work. At least as importantly, most of us no longer have the support of extended family and communities, or the ability to have a stay at home parent to help make it work and those are equally important

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

The article covers that. So far handout policies have only given a transient spike in births.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Handouts are not enough for me to not pull out.

I need more income. There is a massive difference.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Fair.

I personally just don't want kids, for reasons that have nothing to do with money. I don't know for sure how many people that applies to, but I'm guessing it's not insignificant. In another time it wasn't a choice unless you wanted to be celibate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Yep, this means we need to try even harder. It’s a good thing that we’ve gotten to the point where people have more choices and are more in control of their own lives. We should never have to give this up.

However then the future of our society depends even more on fewer people deciding to have more children. Why would they decide to do that? How can we help make this choice easier for them?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

That doesn’t mean they don’t work. It could also mean they weren’t enough or they targeted the wrong things. With the future of our entire society at stake, surely we can spend more than a slightly better tax deduction.

I love my kids, but everything is more expensive, more time consuming, requiring more coordination with more people. Plus how will you find people who want to have kids if they can’t even spend time with them, to help them grow and develop, and discover the world?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah, I can't say money couldn't work, especially if it's recurring like someone else said. It hasn't to date though.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago

If we just tripled everyone's finances, all it would do is cut purchasing power by a third.