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What happens if you lose all citizenship? (lemmy.blahaj.zone)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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This godforsaken country is introducing the bill that allows to strip people of birth-given russian citizenship for some things - like desertion and discreditation of army (which happens every time you question war)

So, my question, if someone loses all citizenship, what happens next? Is their life basically over? Is there a way to re-gain citizenship (like, in another country)? Can they be deported?

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[-] [email protected] 60 points 11 months ago

[-] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Asia and the Pacific - 1.582 million registered

Africa - 715,089 registered

Europe - 570,534 registered

Middle East and North Africa - 372,461 registered

Americas - 2,460 registered

These are really interesting numbers, I wonder if it has to do with immigration policies

[-] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

A lot of it has to do with racism and not allowing full citizenship rights to minority groups.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Example of the above:

In the lead up to the Rohingya genocide in Myanmar, the government published a formal list of every recognized ethnic group in the country to specifically exclude the Rohingya. This allowed them to paint the group as “illegal immigrants from Bangladesh” (despite having been in the country for centuries), remove their citizenship and thus their rights to education and work.

Link about the 1982 citizenship law: https://burmacampaign.org.uk/media/Myanmar’s-1982-Citizenship-Law-and-Rohingya.pdf

[-] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

A huge reason I'd assume is soviet occupants in post-soviet countries. Correct me if I'm wrong here, many of Russians from soviet era living in Baltics with no Russian citizenship and haven't applied and passed local citizenship, are stateless. This is due to requirements like knowing the local language

[-] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Okay, my initial reading of these numbers were that the Americas must be shit at accepting people, then I did a short wiki dive and it has this:

Jus soli in many cases helps prevent statelessness.[11] Countries that have acceded to the 1961 Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness are obligated to grant nationality to people born in their territory who would otherwise become stateless persons.[12][a] The American Convention on Human Rights similarly provides that "Every person has the right to the nationality of the state in whose territory he was born if he does not have the right to any other nationality."[11]

And now I'm thinking maybe the numbers are so low in a good way?

[-] RespectfullyNo 7 points 11 months ago

That was a good read

[-] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Tangential: https://www.thecollector.com/bir-tawil-unclaimed-land/

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