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[–] [email protected] 91 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)

I'm really confused about the "No one can have my picture but almost every single one of my male believers is going to carry my name" situation.

Religions are kind of weird, aren't they?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Always has been. Religion is the single biggest reason to not believe in religion.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

"Religion has given us hope in a world torn apart by religion."

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

the picture thing is to avoid idolatry, which was the main type of religion in the region at the time Islam was beginning. people were used to worship to (or via) visual depictions of gods, so a ban on visual representations of people was an effort to avoid people falling into old habits.

that's why currently an overwhelming majority of Muslims don't care about depictions of people in general, but they still don't allow the prophet or god to be depicted (god isn't supposed to have any physical form anyway) because that would be too close to idolatry.

kind of the opposite approach of christians with pagans, where christians appropriated pagan symbols to make Christianity more appealing, media were concerned with differentiating themselves from other religions.

uttering names isn't taboo in Islam like it is in Christianity. while some Christians avoid saying God, Jesus or the like, Muslims are encouraged to use god's name frequently. however they're not allowed to call people certain names reserved for god alone, but that isn't the case for the prophet. so it's considered sort of a tribute or a sign of respect to name people after the prophet.

interesting fact, Muhammed isn't the prophet's only name, so while this is the most common name in the world, the number of people named after the prophet is even higher, because it includes some other names, most common after Muhammed being Ahmed.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Well, really fundamentalist whackdoodle strains of Islam actually go so far as to claim that no pictorial depiction of any living thing is allowed. They just get really extra touchy about old Mr. M.

Jury's out on how, exactly, that would stand up to things like television and photographs. But I'm not an imam and I don't have the entirety of the hadiths in front of me so I don't fuckin' know. The whole thing is obviously wonky on its face.

[–] ZombiFrancis 5 points 4 months ago

It's a rule thing. Like not eating pork or shellfish, but less tangible and comprehensible than a dietary restriction.

Not depicting people with representative art is a thing that isn't universally embraced in Islam or by every Muslim. But similarly there's going to be some person out there who feels as strongly about it as they would if someone intentionally snuck pork into their food.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Fun fact: While pictures of Mohammed are a no-no for Sunnis (Arabic World), it's a common thing for Shias (Iran mostly).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I’m really confused about the “No one can have my picture but almost every single one of my male believers is going to carry my name” situation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iconoclasm#

Just an artifact of history.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

That right there is so annoying... Imagine a doctor's waiting room, and a nurse asks Mr Mohammed to come in and 20 guys stand up.