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[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago (5 children)

As much as I would have liked to see her make a strategic pick who could help her win an at risk state like Arizona or Pennsylvania, he has less baggage than Shapiro.

I think too, there's strategy in a non-strategic pick. The cynics would have said "Oh, she only picked Shapiro because she needs Pennsylvania" or "Yeah, yeah, he's an astronaut, but she wants Arizona".

In this case? I think he's going to be a delight to watch. He'll devastate Vance in the debate.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I think he's pretty strategic, not to any specific state, but to rural Middle America in general. He grew up working on a farm, worked in a factory for a bit, joined the army then worked as a teacher and football coach, he's the salt of the earth common American vance pretends to be. Not saying he'll turn all the rural areas blue but even going from say 20% to 25% will help a lot in those swing states which have a large rural population.

[–] merc 10 points 3 months ago

Yeah, but he's no salt-of-the-earth type like JD Vance who is a hilbilly^*^ who attended Yale Law and then worked for totally normal guy Peter Thiel at his Venture Capital firm in San Francisco.

* Not really a hilbilly

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I can see that for sure. Do you think his appeal is stronger than Kelly's?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

As a resident of a neighboring state, I'm excited to get to vote for someone from somewhere so close in a national election. If my annecdata happens to apply to more than just me that might help in Iowa, Wisconsin and the Dakotas (although culturally the dakotas are more comparable to their neighbors to the west, while Minnesota is culturally closer to Iowa, Illinois and Wisconsin)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Granted I only married into a Minnesotan family and my experience with the Dakotas is fairly limited, but I would have said that they're a pretty broad spectrum from east to west, especially in South Dakota. Rapid City is definitely pretty similar to Montana and Wyoming, but Mitchell, Sioux Falls, and Fargo are all far more similar to Minnesota

Then again, I'm thinking "culturally" not "politically," so if you're thinking about how they vote, you're probably right that they're likely more similar to MT than MN.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Think of it this way: Minnesota has a population of 5.7M, and almost 3M of that is in the metro area of Minneapolis. It's not quite up to the level of Chicago or New York, where that one blue metro area completely dominates state politics, but it's close.

What I'm getting at is while Minnesota does have areas that are more like the Dakotas, those aren't the places where most of the people live.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I see your point, although it doesn't match my anecdotal experience. People from the Twin Cities might vote differently than people in the small rural towns, but many of the everyday attitudes and cultural associations are pretty similar statewide, regardless of whether they are rural or urban. And in my experience, people from the Cities have a lot more in common culturally with the eastern Dakotas, Iowa, and Wisconsin than they do with Chicago and rural Illinois or with Montana and Wyoming.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

annecdata

What a lovely term

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He'll devastate Vance in the debate.

So would a piece of cheese.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Or a fluffy enough pillow.

[–] merc 3 points 3 months ago

She only picked him because she needs to show that she's committed to fixing immigration, because he's from a border state. ;)