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Saying that they didn't deserve it on the basis of being "a social group" is the most useless thing ever. Fascists are "a social group", and they should be liquidated just as all captitalists (including kulaks) should be.
Oh, that clears it up, I see now liquidating the right sort of people "who deserve it" is a far-left thing that is righteous, and liquidating the wrong people who, as the right say """""deserve it"""" is a far-right thing that is evil.
Before I read this, I was a stupid centrist who thought you shouldn't liquidate groups of people at all, thank you for showing me the right way
Man that guy really went all out to assist you in making your point didn't he?
If his point is that the people of the world should roll over and let the rulling class continue to rule over them and never fight back, then all he has pointed out his complacency.
Is it possible that there is a better a solution to the issues of Capitalism which doesn't involve the liquidation of entire groups of people?
Being a person who have visited communist meetings, this is my biggest gripe with the ideology. Yes, capitalism today has become corrupted, perhaps even beyond repair. But, I refuse to believe that the only solution is to round up and kill the capitalist bosses in order to bring back power to the working class. At this point, we would be dehumanizing an entire group of people which wouldn't make us much better than what the far-right does.
Liquidation of assests
So you believe that there's something like a group of people that will always be striving to be these capitalist overlords and that there's no one in the rest of the population that would display that corrupt desire for power? Either this stinks of eugenics or you're simply naive. Firstly what does it help us killing that group, when the system doesn't change? Secondly if both change, the system needs to be so that people striving to corrupt power will not be able to achieve that power. I've yet to see a system that managed that. The soviet union for one certainly didn't. In fact that is a playbook example of how not to do it, right besides the first french revolution. If you believe that by killing the "corrupt overlords" you won't be getting any more corrupt people striving for power, we're once again at the point is this eugenics or are you naive.
If you think there hasn't been an example of an alternative system of putting people in charge of a government, then you're simply ignorant. Here's one example for you to chew on:
The driving force of change in Cuba's system are local organizations. There's the Committees for the Defense of the Revolution, which operate on a neighborhood level, major workplaces and townships also form coherent political blocs, and the people who arise as leaders of the system are just community and workplace leaders who were elected into the system. There are no political parties, no big donors, and no entrenched power structure that vets candidates - its the most a government has ever been made up of regular people, and it's communists who set it up.
Yes and that state only still exists because the lend-lease their doctors to the entire world and make the high-priced rum and cigars.
I see, your problem is that you think I'm advocating for new violence. What I'm advocating for is the violence of self defense. Capitalists do far worse things to far more people every day on order to maintain their power than would be required by the working class to remove them.
The good ol whataboutism here again I see...
It's not a whataboutism, it's a clarification. If you think that violence to maintain an oppressive structure and violence to overthrow that structure are morally equal, then you are a coward hiding behind pacifism in order to endorse keeping the current status quo.