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Have you ever rebuilt and repaired old electrical appliances? An old microwave with a turn dial timer is most certainly not electronic. Electrical sure, but not electronic.
Those only basically have a mechanical timer dial, high voltage transformer, high voltage diode, magnetron, light, fan, turntable motor, fuse, and some safety switches for the door.
Absolutely nothing electronic about them, they're as dumb as an old-school toaster, they just happen to use high voltage to generate microwaves instead.
i'm not referring to old appliances
Well, generally speaking, most people discussing the benefits of appliances and stuff with turn dials are referring to older/simpler appliances, back before they started adding in unnecessary electronics and 'features' and stuff.
I've never actually seen any microwave with a turn dial that has any sort of electronics in them, those are all built almost identical in schematics, aside from different sizes and wattages.
i don't know why you'd assume that. lots of current/new appliances are still made with dials and knobs. in fact, most are.
also, you're the only one here discussing microwaves. so far, others and myself have been discussing refrigerators and laundry appliances.
OP mentioned microwave ovens in the comment that you responded with "I hate to break it to you..", so yeah guess you missed something there.
i guess you missed the part when i said "i wasn't referring to old appliances," because you're only talking about old microwaves.
and since you're clearly just here to troll and argue. i'm blocking you.
bye.
I think his point is that older and simpler can't be equated like that, because new simple appliances are still electronic, not electromechanical anymore.
New appliances still don't need to have 'smart' technology to work, but where the hell do you purchase a new air conditioner these days that doesn't require an app to operate?
Seriously, you can't even find a dumb air conditioner anymore, at least not in my area.
That was just the first step in enshittification, when they broke from available manuals and standardized parts. Now you gotta have a WiFi connection and online account to even access a new air conditioner, washing machine, etc.
The stores don't even offer dumb appliances anymore. There's no reason that a microwave should even exist online, especially after the borked update that bricked many of them with a bad firmware update that was meant for a food steamer.
Does that sound familiar? It should...
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YEZCySVQHEU
Strangely, that sounds quite similar to CrowdStrike Falcon.
Fuck planned obsolescence, and fuck everything being connected online all the time, especially auto updates!
They still make them, just limited models for consumers and commercial use like apartments. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Amana-3-5-cu-ft-Top-Load-Washer-with-Dual-Action-Agitator-White/1003201568?
They still produce them in limited models. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Amana-3-5-cu-ft-Top-Load-Washer-with-Dual-Action-Agitator-White/1003201568?