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Big publishers ‘eject too soon’ from live service titles, says Warframe boss. “It comes out, doesn’t work and they throw it away” (www.videogameschronicle.com)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (38 children)

Hey, at least it's not P2W... right?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (32 children)

You can buy weapons and prime frames, so I guess it depends on your definition of "win" but I'd argue that yes, technically it does. The larger issue of WF however are the layers of FOMO they have that turn the entire game into a job / chore that you have to attend daily, which is ultimately why I left it, even though the core gameplay itself is definitely fun. Frankly why I probably won't play their other game either because it is almost certainly going to follow the same live service formula as WF.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (20 children)

I agree with most of the stuff you've said expect the FOMO bit - there are three very specific items that are never coming back for obvious reasons, which are irrelevant to the overall story and hardly affect anyone's enjoyment of the game. Every other item has eventually come back.

Edit: on a second read, you mentioned the game is P2W. That's definitely a way to say you've not played the game, so now I'm angry I spent half a minute writing my comment.

[–] poke 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A lot of people struggle to understand that a lot of the fun of warframe is in the progression. There really isn't a lot to do that's interesting when you get into the endgame, so paying to progress faster ultimately takes away some of that fun.

Now, there is plenty of fun to be had building and trying out new weapons, but that does get old without a goal to reach for while using them.

Also, very few people actually play the PVP mode. I've never touched it myself and I'm in the endgame.

So from an outsider who doesn't understand this, they see that players can pay to progress faster and think it's pay to win - because in most games it is.