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Yes. Which is part of why I'm frankly pretty concerned about the possibility that there's no real path to victory for the democrats here. That debate should have been an easy W for anyone, instead Joe got up on stage, said "heads up, chucklefuck", and blew his own leg off on national TV.
I feel like that would've been more impressive actually if he did that. "I'm joe biden, and this is jackass" style thing. I've been saying one single kickflip or backflip outta this guy could save the country or whatever.
That's what you got from this?
Um...yes? Every "oh I'm gonna vote for the Dem" person here somehow either absolves Trump of things OR they even play it up - "he looked presidential."
That's just pure garbage and should be called out as such. I'm not the only person thinking there are a few people nervous but a hell of a lot on here that are just muddying the waters as trolls or paid influencers.
Especially when you look at how the media has approached it too. Somehow everything is on Biden but no one calls out obvious lies of Trump, no one talks about his 34 felony convictions, his being a rapist, his hiding and refusal of giving back classified docs which were surely shown to a hell of a lot of people who shouldn't see them, etc.
But yeah- Biden was bad in one debate and that's all we're gonna focus on...
Not to mention the stark difference in actual accomplishments or failures in their admins. What a joke. And if you are serious- you're doing everyone a disservice by focusing on performative bullshit like they want you to instead of actual competence while in the job.
I'm not talking about the media. I'm talking about this post. OP had one line that said he looked presidential (in comparison to Biden's old man demeanor). He also laid out a ton of issues the Democrats have to overcome before November. I feel like I'm living 2016 part 2.
Hey.
The conversation is happening whether you like it or not. Plugging your ears and screaming that everyone else talking about it is a waste of time because the other guy is obviously worse and you personally won't vote for him... Means you just won't see the results coming.
Great for you. Really annoying to everyone else trying to do something about it.
If you want to complain about the people trying to find a solution out great but stop pretending you are being helpful for it. These conversations will continue here and everywhere else. Hopefully you get tired of hearing yourself complain before the end cause lots of people already are.
Lol Biden didn't just have one bad debate. This is the way he is now. He's too old and his health is deteriorating before our eyes
To his voterbase? Yes. They already agree with Trump, now they have been energized.
I'm amazed people thought Trump looked good.. I mean Biden stumbled a bit sure, but Trump basically said "Stalin came back from the grave and started eating white christian babies in front of the Washington Monument!"