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[–] otp -1 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Not voting for Biden helps Trump win

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Replacing Biden helps Trump lose.

[–] otp 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That isn't guaranteed. And the voters don't really have any control over that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

True. They could replace Biden with Clinton.

The voters lack of control is the main reason we are in this mess. Only 14m people chose Biden in the primary.

[–] otp 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I agree with you there.

I'm also (obviously) against the genocide.

I just think Trump would be worse in every way, including regarding the genocide (and other potential future genocides and/or wars).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Not Trump should be President. That doesn't necessarily mean Biden.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not voting for Trump helps Biden win then.

[–] otp 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, if voters who vote Republican or flip between Republican/Democrat decide not to vote for Trump, then that would help Biden win.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ok, but independents who don't vote for either are not helping either.

[–] otp 2 points 4 months ago

Or are they helping both?

Actually, I've read that voter apathy tends to help Right-wing parties. If that's true and accurate, then independents who don't vote for either would be helping Trump.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yep, so the DNC should replace Biden and appeal more to their voters.

[–] otp 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe it'd appeal more to you. But they've likely done their research and figured that they'd lose more votes from swapping him out.

They could be right or wrong, but they're not making these decisions blindly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe it'd appeal more to you. But they've likely done their research and figured that they'd lose more votes from swapping him out.

Then this is their tactical choice to sacrifice voters that would vote for the DNC if he was swapped out, and the blame lies on the DNC, not the voters.

[–] otp -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, because the voters still have a choice to vote.

There's no guarantee that swapping candidates would get them more net votes.

There's a guarantee that Democrat or flip voters who abstain from voting for Biden are helping Trump win.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's a guarantee that Democrat or flip voters who abstain from voting for Biden are helping Trump win.

Why are they abstaining?

[–] otp 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because they're okay with convicted felon Donald Trump becoming the president of the USA again, lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are they? Is that why they are abstaining? Does that mean every third party and non-voter is okay with Trump?

[–] otp 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If their vote matters (based on previous elections), then yes.

They're either okay with it, or they're ignorant.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

So then the DNC is to blame, cool, we are in agreement.