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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

How big were the win margins in 2020 again?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How is that in any way relevant to my correction about "the main source of discontent"?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Democrats can't afford to lose even half of that 10%.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I didn't say they could. I was correcting someone who indicated Gaza is "the main source of discontent" among voters, when in fact polling shows it is not. I didn't say literally anything about the election or who's likely to win, or what that discontent might mean in the future.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You asked how the electoral margins were relevant to the topic. I just answered your question.

Quibble about which issue is more important all you want, the DNC is already underwater on voter enthusiasm regardless.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not "quibbling". I'm pointing to polling evidence that directly contradicts a claim the other user made. I didn't say a damn thing about the DNC, or voter enthusiasm, or electoral prospects, or any of that information. I literally just showed polls of priority issues for relative importance. That's the end of my point, so please don't respond to an argument I didn't make.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Your disagreement was not one of kind, but of scale. You're choosing to focus on polls of issue priority as if that matters when we both agree that the party can't afford to lose any support regardless of the issue.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I didn't say anything about whether the party can or cannot afford to lose support.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You said this:

Voters simply don't care about Gaza anywhere near as much as they care about literally everything else:

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It shows up in poll after poll after poll. With the exception of chronically online lemmings and less than 10% of Democratic voters, nobody else really cares.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes I did. Your powers of observation are uncanny.

So again, what does the 2020 margin of victory have to do with the purported "main source of discontent" among voters, which isn't borne out by polling data?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I didn't say it was the main source of discontent. I just think that being able to win the election is the most important thing. It doesn't have to be the "main" source to cause the problem we're all talking about.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I didn't say you did. I corrected someone else, and you responded to me. So again, how is your response relevant to me correcting someone else's factual inaccuracy?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I obviously mistook this as a conversation about the upcoming election and Biden's chances, but I can see now that you are purely interested in correcting someone about this one thing, and not about whether or not that has an important impact on Biden's chances.

Yes wow you're right it isn't the "main" source of the discontent. Congratulations.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, I corrected someone's factual inaccuracy. If you want to respond to things that other people are currently talking about, be my guest.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was talking about the thing the person you responded to was talking about.

Anyway, this was oddly hostile so I'm out.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Then respond to them, not me.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was responding to what you said about what they said. This is generally how conversations go

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You didn't respond to what I said though. You responded, yes, but it had nothing to do with what I said or the point I was making or responding to.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Never mind dude, there is a link, but I've already tried to explain it. You were correct in your comment, which I think is all you're bothered about.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

That's quite literally all I was trying to say, so yes.