THE POLICE PROBLEM
The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
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I'll save you a click, and give you the TLDR
10 year old girl gets bullied at school, draws a picture of her pulling a gun on the other kid who bullied her. Then said to a nurse that she wondered what spending a day in jail was like. That made police handcuff her. Cops claimed she was a real threat. Girl did NOT have a gun, and was in no way a threat.
Now she's sueing. Yeah, she was a dumb little girl, doing dumb things, but kids are dumb. Thats why schools exist. To teach them. And thats why parents should be raising them to not do dumb shit.
But cops have to be the adults in the situation, and they were just as immature as the 10 year old.
So now a stupid situation is now a serious situation.
But also.......maybe we should get this kid some therapy. Kinda seems like in a few years she might shoot up the place.
And find this other kid who bullied her to begin with. I'm not saying that I agree with what the columbine kids did, or any other kids who followed them did, but they do all follow a pattern. Kids get bullied, school does nothing, kids keep getting bullied, school shooting happens in retaliation.
And everybody wonders why. And acts like nobody could see it coming. HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE IT COMING???? ITS A BASIC FUCKING PATTERN!!!
Maybe we should hold schools accountable for every school shooting. Because the common theme is "kids get bullied, school does nothing, pattern continues for years, kid shoots up school."
Maybe the school should be doing something. I reccomend bringing back the paddle. You bully a kid? Well now the whole class gets to see you get an embarrassing paddling. Don't want to get paddled? Don't be a shitty kid. It puts the power back into the kids hands to make the choice to influence their future. Because right now, schools expell you for defending yourself, but they let bullies get away with it for years. This makes the victim feel that theres only one way out.
Now add in all the hormones of puberty, and the false belief that people in middle school or high school are important, and you have a reciepe where these teens think they only have one option.
It's like bees (not wasps). You walk over to a flower, and a bee is there? That bee will not sting you. That bee may fly over to investigate you. See if you're a flower. But if you leave ghe bee alone, the bee leaves you alone. But if you start swiping at the bee, and aggrovating it, then suddenly the bee pulls out a gun, and feels like the only way out is a murder suicide.
Whereas, I never have issues with bees. They do their thing. I do my thing. And sometimes I buy honey at the store. The real issue is bees aren't getting paid for their work. They fly all over the city, and collect nector from flowers, and make honey, and then these corporations drain their harvest, and add sugar to it, and sell it. Meanwhile, the bees get no profit sharing. They get no say in when they work. They're even called derogatory names like "drones" and "worker bees". Nobody ever calls them by their name. Nobody ever says "Hi Steve!". No, it's always "AAAAAHHHH!!!!! A BEE!!!!"
And then the news has one more story to report of senseless violence.