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[–] [email protected] 59 points 4 months ago (1 children)

According to the article, people were trying to pin this on a Ukrainian-fired American-made missile.

I think the other notable part is the specific kind of missile used. This one should more often than not land within 6m of where you tell it to. If it was actually directly targeting the hospital rather than "just" being a glide bomb flung in the general direction of Kyiv, that's even worse

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I miss the days when I was surprised to hear that Russia probably deliberately blew up a hospital.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean, Putin deliberately blew up a Russian school 20 years ago so unfortunately, this shouldn't be a surprise.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_siege

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Where in that article does it say it was bombed deliberately? And by Putin?

The first explosions were the bombs placed by the attackers themselves. The fighting afterwards was as expected.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sure. Putin was totally innocent. Just like he was totally innocent when he ordered a theater full of hostages gassed, right? The hostage-takers gassed themselves I'm sure.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why are you getting cynical now?

I asked where it states that Putin bombed the school. Your own source contradicts your comment. So please explain.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why, exactly, would the hostage takers blow themselves up?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They wore explosive belts. That's why i supect they intended to blow themself up. Sure, I could be wrong. But then you got to find better sources.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Do you know who claimed they had explosive belts? I don't because the Wikipedia article doesn't source it.

And if you read the citation for the claim just after that, you will see that supposedly many terrorists- the ones supposedly wearing explosive belts- escaped rather than blew themselves up.

That sort of cognitive dissonance couldn't possibly be put out by the otherwise totally honest Russian media which is definitely not a political mouthpiece for their dictator, a man who gassed a theater full of innocent hostages but definitely did not blow up a school full of innocent hostages.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago

In two of three final reports there are bombs worn or placed by the attackers. In two of the reports the final assault was started by government personell (either directly, letting it look like the hostage takers started it, or by killing the guy on a dead man's switch). In one report it was classified as a suicide attack from the start.

The dead man's switch was confirmed by one of the surviving attackers. He also was the one speaking of a dispute between the attackers concerning the target building (school vs. police station).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

when were those days?