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[–] [email protected] 78 points 5 months ago (6 children)

A country that truly believes in freedom and democracy shouldn't require you to take a loyalty oath every day.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This whole thing is such a mind fuck and crazy process for people outside merica. I really thought it was a joke on movies, but realising that they are really all brainwashed since children like this makes a lot more sense when you consider everything.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The Conservatives here in the UK wanted to enforce something similar, but in the form of a patriotic song. Everybody just laughed. That would never fly here!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And it's spreading. Denmark is pushing laws to restrict using other flags. It might be a dog whistle for anti-palestine but still. Rubs me the wrong way.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's how I feel about my state adopting laws saying Non-Citizens can't vote. They already can't, the only thing the law is accomplishing is a dog whistle.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thankfully not, North Carolina

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

It's almost like if you have to keep telling yourself that you live in a free country, you probably don't.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And we’ve had multiple lawsuits decide exactly that - you do not have to do it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

With this court, all bets are off though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In most schools, it's not. But they don't advertise that.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943), is a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court holding that the First Amendment protects students from being compelled to salute the American flag or say the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools.

They can't require participation.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It says I live in a state that requires it with no exceptions and that's simply not true. In HS a lot of students didn't participate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

It's been made clear in court that students can't be forced to make the pledge against their will.