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A projection of how the election results would look if we used Additional Member System (AMS), like in Scotland and Wales.

Party AMS FPTP Seat change
Labour 236 411 +175
LibDems 77 71 -6
Green 42 4 -38
SNP 18 9 -9
Plaid Cymru 4 4 0
Reform 94 5 -89
Conservative 157 121 -36
Northern Ireland 18 18 0
Other 4 6 +2
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[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Yes Reform would have far more seats under PR, but I don't believe that changes the overarching principle of the matter: fair and representative representation based on votes cast.

Singling out a bogeyman doesn't answer the principle. Do you want people to feel like their vote counts? That's the important part for me.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

The party list system would mean that Nigel Farage was never out of parliament in the last ages. He would win every time.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

He would win as long as people want him to win, surely? The question is do you think that's more democratic or not?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No, with the party list system, any one party which gets north of something like 60,000 votes gets an MP and the party chooses who gets the seat, so the leader cannot lose their seat. They are immune from becoming unelected, no matter how unpopular.

In our current system, if you can't find a locality that wants you, you lose. Reform might have got a lot of votes, but its candidates are very unpopular, for good reason, and they don't win elections much. It's only because the Conservatives have been a total shit show that they got any MPs at all.

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