this post was submitted on 19 Jul 2023
487 points (98.6% liked)

Collapse

3236 readers
1 users here now

We have moved to https://lemm.ee/c/collapse -- please adjust your subscriptions

This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.


Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.


RULES

1 - Remember the human

2 - Link posts should come from a reputable source

3 - All opinions are allowed but discussion must be in good faith.

4 - No low effort posts.


Related lemmys:

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
 

From Prof. Eliot Jacobson:

Wow! Wow! Wow!

North Atlantic sea surface temperature anomalies are going vertical again. And yes, I needed to extend the y-axis.

Yesterday's temperature of 24.49°C (76.08°F) was 4.2σ above the 1991-2020 mean. The previous high for July 17 was 23.71°C (74.68°F) in 2020.

https://twitter.com/EliotJacobson/status/1681321023306874880

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 114 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yep, but for a shining moment in time, humanity created a lot of value for shareholders!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those are the only important people in the world.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Far worse than that. Significant shareholders, not someone's paltry 401k, but people who hoard millions upon millions+ are the only people the owner class considers to be people at all.

We aren't people to our owners, we are livestock meant to be exploited for all the value we can produce, and then tossed away like the useless garbage we are to them despite being the ones that generate their wealth. Remembering or honoring that fact would interfere with their self-delusions of being "self-made." We aren't human to them, which makes it easier to do what they do to us.

Thats why they go to such extraordinary lengths to segregate themselves from us. They send their children to private schools for rich kids who teach them they will be the future leaders of the world and the most altruistic thing they can do is increase their own net worth, while never exposing them to social interaction with peasant children, to ensure they don't develop empathy with us or humanize us peasants, which would have to happen at a young age while worldviews are forming. A handful overcome this, but almost all of them embrace it. Most of the wealth class actively creates walls to avoid interacting with the cattle.

It doesn't feel nearly as cruel if you perceive those being paid almost nothing in sweatshops to manufacture the crap you make for private profit to be mindless beasts.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/18/the-wealthiest-10percent-of-americans-own-a-record-89percent-of-all-us-stocks.html

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

Foreplay's over.