this post was submitted on 30 Jun 2024
531 points (91.3% liked)
Political Memes
5087 readers
5329 users here now
Welcome to politcal memes!
These are our rules:
Be civil
Jokes are okay, but don’t intentionally harass or disturb any member of our community. Sexism, racism and bigotry are not allowed. Good faith argumentation only. No posts discouraging people to vote or shaming people for voting.
No misinformation
Don’t post any intentional misinformation. When asked by mods, provide sources for any claims you make.
Posts should be memes
Random pictures do not qualify as memes. Relevance to politics is required.
No bots, spam or self-promotion
Follow instance rules, ask for your bot to be allowed on this community.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
partially to keep the Democrats from straying too much from environmental concerns.
She should focus solely on the environment and climate change then instead of "WiFi causes cancer" and promoting vaccine hesitancy. She should also develop a facts based viewpoint on nuclear energy instead of fear mongering.
We have modern reaction designs that can consume existing nuclear waste. We literally have more nuclear waste around than we would if we were doing more nuclear projects.
IIUC, renewables are becoming less costly compared to nukes than nukes.
Who's stopping people from challenging Stein?
If only 0.1% were US Green Party members, that's still 1/3rd a million.
Nuclear reactors are quite expensive, but they provide some benefits we can't get from other renewables. They can be used to provide a consistent base load of power to the grid, and if we pick a good base load, we'll minimize time periods where we have extra or insufficient energy from solar and wind. And like I said, we can use nuclear reactors to burn nuclear waste. Being able to destroy waste is a big boon.
It's not on the general population to replace Stein. It's on the Green Party to appeal to the general population. In that regard it may actually be best that they don't field a presidential candidate. Hear me out. Right now you have just a small group of people who are voting on who should be the Green nominee. That person is going to be reflective of the small group, but will lack general appeal. It'll be someone who the Greens want, but not someone who the people in general want.
Democrats and Republicans are able to do this because they're large enough that their nominee has to be approved of by a substantial part of the population. That's something third parties don't have, and their candidates will be alienating. Libertarians are a good example where the small group wants to get rid of drivers licenses for instance, but the general population is absolutely against it.
Instead of asking about challenging Stein, we should be asking if any candidate chosen by the current Green party would actually be desired by the general population. And I don't think that is currently possible with how small and niche the party is. This is why they need to focus on local and state and congressional races.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZITP93pqtdQ
0:22
And partially to collect more money from Putin for a third folk rock album.
Edit: For anyone else that wants in on or doubts that trainwreck here is her second album on bandcamp
Presumably one needs relatively little money for that, and why are you defaming folk rock?
and now for a Russian band that plays Brazilian-influenced music that's acoustic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rovmW_mbaOI
3:15
Because before she wanted to be president Jill Stein was using her wealth to try and be a folk rock hero
wp:Jill Stein
Where does it say that?
Why does it have to be on Wikipedia to be true?
https://somebodyssister-steinselcer.bandcamp.com/album/circuits-to-the-sun-somebodys-sister
Here's her album you can also find it and some of her covers she did on discogs.
It helps if it's on Wikipedia.
let's see:
https://forward.com/culture/355467/when-jill-stein-was-in-a-really-bad-folk-band-called-somebodys-sister/
okay, TIL: thank you.
It seems it lasted until the end of the 1990s.
and you seem to not like her because she's soft on Putin—which is legitimate.
any other objections?
wp:Green Party of the United States#Political positions