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>"Nothing justifies genocide."
>Proceeds to make arguments justifying genocide
I have no idea how you could possibly think this supports your position on things.
If Major Kira was living under a government that offered no alternative to genocide, she'd take up a phaser and start killing government officials, you know, like she literally did, in the show. She'd never condone someone who supported genocide, even if it meant resorting to violent opposition instead.
"Justifying genocide is when you oppose genocide, and the more you oppose it, the more you justify it" - Very Serious Lemmings
Alternatively, "The prospect of an eventual violent revolution justifies genocide" - Very Serious Lemmings
Or more realistically, "I think that the prospect of virtue signaling without affecting government policy justifies genocide, because that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside" - Very Serious Lemmings
I'm not accusing you of supporting genocide for voting against a fascist, I'm also voting against a fascist. I'm accusing you of supporting genocide for voting for a candidate that supports genocide. There's nothing "secret" about it, it's your openly expressed position.
So are you not voting Biden, or do you deny the genocide being done to the Palestinians?
Without saying what they are, cool. I guess I'm rejecting your false dilemmas, lies, and accusations too, then.
Will Trump getting into power make things better for people in Palestine?
No. That's why I'm not voting for him or helping him get into power.
And do you understand that under the current American electoral system, any action other than voting for Biden will directly assist Trump in getting into power?
No, because that's not true. The only thing that assists Trump getting into power is voting for Trump. Voting third party provides the exact same assistance to Trump as it does to Biden: 0.
But I'll tell you what - if not voting for someone counts as assisting them, then you can rest assured that Biden will have my assistance.
It is a simple, statistical fact that votes for Biden reduce Trump's chances of winning. So you can either choose to impede Trump's chances of winning, or choose not to.
Explain to me, if you can, how refusing to take an action that reduces a fascist's chance of assuming power is, functionally, any different from assisting them.
God I wish I had your patience.
That's not a reasonable standard for what constitutes "assistance." If I see a bank robbery happening and do nothing to stop it, does that mean I assisted the robbery? Am I assisting every single thing happening in the world right now?
If you mean "not impeding" then say "not impeding." Calling that assistence is false and disingenuous.
Those are not remotely analogous situations. What is the risk to you from voting for Biden? What does it cost you? How does it endanger you?
Voting is free. But you would rather further endanger vulnerable people than do something that makes you personally feel icky.
Because that's what this comes down to. Given all the choices available in this situation, there is literally no downside to voting for Biden. All it truly costs is swallowing your pride.
But you can't even do that.
Again, I'm not endangering anyone. If you can't talk about this without making false claims an accusations, then we're done here.
If you don't think that a Trump victory will endanger vulnerable people then you've got your head stuck so deep in the sand that it's a wonder you can hear anything at all.