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So this post from lemmynsfw.com just popped up in my feed. It is not tagged as nsfw although it obviously is. I have tried attaching a screenshot but Jerboa throws an error. I have nsfw material turned off in my account settings, so this wouldn't happen if the post would be tagged properly. I'm using Jerboa. I could just ban the whole community but it is not the solution in looking for, because the ban works on app level and I have separate accounts for separate needs. Also banning the community is a reactory move and I would need to repeat that for every offending community in the future. That means that my feed would still be getting occasional nsfw material. Please advise.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

lemmynsfw.com has a hard rule that all NSFW posts should be marked as NSFW. Report the post in question and instance admins or community moderators will deal with it. It shouldn't be a common issue.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Ok, I will. The issue is the rule is NOT strictly followed and those posts pop up in my feed regularly.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As far as I can tell mods are swift in dealing with reports. And even though the rule exists there will always be people that ignore those rules. There is no way to block whole instances at the moment and without the NSFW flag, there is no technical way to see that the post contains NSFW image.

In addition to reporting the post in question you could also block the user if you suspect that they are posting without the NSFW flag regularly.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I don't have a link handy, but I saw this reported before and when someone went to lemmynsfw to check the posts, they actually had been properly marked as nsfw.

My unsubstantiated theory is that federation is working pretty crappily right now and so lots of federation messages get dropped. When a new post or comment gets dropped you don't notice because... well... you don't see anything. But when a post makes it through and an edit gets dropped, that can be more visible.

So likely what's happening is that on some small percent but medium absolute number of lemmynsfw posts, someone makes an honest mistake and fails to tag it. They either notice themselves and fix it, or a mod asks them to and they comply... so on lemmynsfw it looks right. But the federation message with the edit gets dropped by your instance, and for you and others viewing from there it forever remains sfw in error, even though all the right steps were taken. I've also heard mods discussing this happening with post removal moderation actions, the post gets removed on the community's home instance, but the federation message containing the removal gets dropped by some big instance and the post blows up there anyway where the mods are actually unable to shut it down.

I don't think there's anything anyone can do about this other than maybe the lemmynsfw admins tuning their federation worker counts (though they may have already and that may no longer be needed in recent Lemmy versions), or the Lemmy devs working on federation scalability so a larger percentages of federation messages get reliably delivered.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think this is what’s happening. I recently double posted a comment by mistake and immediately deleted the duplicate, but when I came back later in the day, I noticed the deleted comment was still getting upvotes and replies.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Is it possible for an author to change the NSFW tag on a post after the fact? Maybe thats what happened, it's explain the slow federation for the edit.

[–] imaqtpie 1 points 1 year ago

I can confirm that there are still federation issues. Even purging comments does not always federate to other instances. But this comment explains the situation quite well.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

This was the same way this was dealt with in Reddit. Just report it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like LemmyNSFW should have the NSFW tag by default.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It does in 99% of the communities. Some are not exclusively NSFW content, so it makes sense to make the tag optional in those. It opens the door for novice users to make a mistake though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What app are you using? Some recent update broke NSFW tags for a lot of people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago