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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

We're kind of already seeing it with Mastodon. The official app strongly pushes people toward mastodon.social which is a radioactive dumpster fire. And this isn't even corporate America, it's just the folks who own the name.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why is mastodon.social so bad?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The biggest issue is that they don't really moderate, so hate speech and bigotry have a greater presence there. I specifically remember a situation where multiple people were reporting things and it took them days (maybe a week or more? I can't remember, but certainly several days) to take it down. And this happens pretty regularly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was thinking about experimenting mastodon too. What server so you recommend?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am not at all qualified to make a recommendation for an instance for you to join, I'm sorry! The server list on the Join Mastodon site has some good servers, some bad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Here is hoping lemmy is easier to moderate and doesnt end up like that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

There are several good mastodon instances, just not mastodon.social. Moderating is hard and you have to actually do it and not be afraid it's censorship. Oh, and not being a fascist helps. I'm beginning to wonder about the mastodon.social admins.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Mastodon had to pick a default instance because so many people complained about the server picking process. People are used to "one service, one app" and backed out when they had to make a choice.

And, as any social network has shown, if you gather enough people on a platform, your platform will turn to shit. It's an unfortunate side effect of a relatively small yet vocal part of humanity being absolute assholes.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Your points are valid and you're not wrong, but it's exacerbated by the poor / lack of moderation as I commented elsethread. You can have a large number of users and still have a tolerable, even useful and pleasant, experience--r/askhistorians is my favorite example of internet moderation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Reddit has attracted plenty of moderators but on the fediverse those moderators are often lacking in my experience. Some servers have strict moderation (which I'm a big fan of) but there are many people who consider their abuse being removed an infringement of their freedom of speech.

With the fediverse working across servers, every server needs moderators or you'll have trolls or general shitheads moving from server to server, ruining the experience for everyone. I've set up an instance just for myself and I'm already considering writing a script that syncs up the blacklists of various Lemmy servers because I don't want to deal with that crap every time I open a thread.