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Yeah, this I can get behind. Fuck those guys painting Stonehenge, but this? Yeah, go ahead.
Controversial opinion: whats the point of stonehenge if there is no humanity? Its not like it fosters some ecosystem or smth for other species, its a historical piece which holds sentimental value to us humans.
If we continue to use oil, we will for sure fuck up humanity. The act was controversial but the message needs to be looked at
What's the point of destroying Stonehenge if humanity survives as a cascading result of stopping air travel? Defacing or destroying Stonehenge is not the lynch pin that solves or even moves the needle on climate change.
Worse, if it WORKS it means the next cause that is perhaps not existential is going to come and destroy something else that belongs to humanity. Weirdly, when nation states destroy heritage sites it's considered a type of war crime, but when it comes up for raising awareness for climate change fuck yeah everyone's in!
No one destroyed Stonehenge. They covered it in ~~wheat-based~~ cornstarch-based dye that washes off in the rain (something England gets a lot of). Calm your tits.
Last time it was cornstarch.
And the stones are covered in lichen that protect the stone
While you are correct (and while I said destroy OR deface), the two different posts about this both contain people advocating for actual destruction for the same reasons.
Please read the other posts and alarm your tits to the reality / tenor of the discussion.
Okay "alarm your tits" is a genuinely funny turn of phrase.
I laughed when I wrote it.
Ice cold take
Yeah but that is the problem. These people keep on trying to destroy art and historical sites just to get the point across.
I know the point, we all know the point and there is NOTHING we can do about it. It's ll in the hands of politicians and wealthy assholes. Destroying beautiful things or historical artifacts isn't doing anything to further the cause, it's not doing a single shit to teach humanity (or better, those politicians that actually can stop climate change). It's the same as those protests that stop traffic. You only piss people off and cause ambulances to not arrive in time at hospitals.
You're doing it wrong.
What's the point of being alive if you're just gonna die one day?
The guys doing Stonehenge at least tried. They used a powder they thought would just come off in the rain.
Did it not come off?
The Stone Henge people are saying that the water, lichen, and powder would have reacted badly. I do not have the education to know if that's true or not.
Strangley, 2 days ago they said they'll have to get the experts out to have a look at it, before they can tell.
What a very quick turnaround that, apparently, was......
They’re probably just a bunch of upset babies blowing everything out of proportion, of course they would go to the most unlikely and extreme outcome.
Meh.
Their job is to defend stonehenge at all costs. They wouldn't let people look at it if they could get away with it.
Of course they're going to say that the powder is reckless and could potentially upset the lichen or something.
It's hard to believe that this stunt could have any measurable impact in another 10 years or so.
Nor did the protesters I would guess.
Neither do the media outlets, but that's the story their running with because the oil companies run ads on their networks.
It hasn't rained yet.