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xkcd #2948: Electric vs Gas (xkcd.com)
submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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An idling gas engine may be annoyingly loud, but that's the price you pay for having WAY less torque available at a standstill.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Why do people still pretend it takes longer than 20 minutes to get a 50% charge increase?

[–] shield_gengar 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Because it's currently easier to find a gas station than a charger that will do that performance. Now I'm willing to wait 8 hrs for 10%, but others certainly aren't.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You must live in a red state or the middle of nowhere. It's easy to find chargers everywhere I've been.

[–] shield_gengar 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, my point. I have to charge my car at home because of charging stations are either far, or Tesla owners park in them to do shopping.

Saying I live somewhere shit doesn't disprove my point that gas is more readily available.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Yeah because the conservative government of those areas is actively suppressing them from being built.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

My parents live in the sticks, in a red state, and I have no problem finding charging stations within twenty miles from them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Wait, I'm confused (out of date??) I thought it took hours to charge. Has that changed?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

  1. I don't have enough charge for my trip. I'm also thirsty.

  2. I go to a grocery store with a fast charger.

  3. I buy a drink.

  4. I have enough charge.

If it's a long trip where I need more charge, I choose a car snack, and I'll have enough.

If I'm on an actual long car trip and I want to charge all the way from the warning light to 100%, I will need to eat a meal anyway. I just find a McDonald's/cafe,/restaurant/whatever with a fast charger, and it'll be full before I'm done.

But finding a store/eating place with a fast charger is still waaaay less convenient than just finding a place where I can get diesel in seconds, and find a different place to get drinks/food/snacks.

[–] shield_gengar 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Fast chargers can fully charge my car (range ~400mi) in about an hour

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Most cars will charge to 80% pretty fast. 20%-70% is really fast on most.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

fast charging on modern HV battery packs will get you to 80% from 0 in like 15-20 minutes. I've seen lower, but it's really fucking usable now.