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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Ah, I see. So it's cool when we do it (fossil fuel and ag subsidies, the auto industry bailout in 2008, etc.) but not when they do it.

Got it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You're introducing an argument as a way to undermine the viewpoint that's opposite to yours.

No one said it's fine "when we do it". That's not the point being discussed.

The other bigger issue here is that these new cars are coming from a region that has a horrendous track record for safety and quality. EVs when done right are still a considerable risk with battery fires, but the ones manufactured in China are much worse for quality and safety. In the next few years, as these cars flood markets around the world, it will be a massive issue.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

They seem safe enough to pass the EU’s safety standards, which are much higher than the US. Also this blanket “quality issues” argument without specific evidence is terrible. If we’re going off of quality in recent history, American manufacturing is down the toilet in terms of quality - just look at Boeing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

People wrongly assume all Chinese manufacturing is aliexpress fodder.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I'm sorry but 1 star out of 5 on the European NCAP is terrible ! This car is a death trap !

I would never set a foot in a Chinese ....

Oh wait ! I was looking at the Jeep wrangler, never mind.

The BYD has a 5 star rating as well as an the other chinese cars I checked.

Euro NCAP - Jeep Wrangler

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Lmao this is coming from the same safety organization that approved the Tesla Cybertruck?

I'll take my chances with a car that's seen EU approval.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's funny because your article states the vehicles are fine. Good job on dropping a link you did not bother clicking yourself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

This phenomenon is primarily due to fears of high repair costs, lack of technical information, and long lead times for replacement parts.

Vehicles that use batteries as structural elements are more prone to being totaled by insurance companies.

I think you're missing what I'm saying here. I'm pointing out that Chinese auto makers don't have the same processes as more experienced companies. They're just slinging out cars into foreign markets with almost no extra work.

Besides, the article didn't say the cars are "fine", it quoted someone saying that they've seen some cars that would have been fixed quickly if it was a domestic brand because of part availability.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

But but but, rampant capitalism good