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A U.S. Navy submarine has arrived in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in a show of force as a fleet of Russian warships gather for planned military exercises in the Caribbean.

U.S. Southern Command said the USS Helena, a nuclear-powered fast attack submarine, pulled into the waters near the U.S. base in Cuba on Thursday, just a day after a Russian frigate, a nuclear-powered submarine, an oil tanker and a rescue tug crossed into Havana Bay after drills in the Atlantic Ocean.

The stop is part of a “routine port visit” as the submarine travels through Southern Command’s region, it said in a social media post.

Other U.S. ships also have been tracking and monitoring the Russian drills, which Pentagon officials say do not represent a threat to the United States.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I never understood how slavery could stand for so long... But I guess now I do?

Nevermind that the embargo on Cuba limits the utility of US money.

Edit: for a similar scenario, look at the conditions for Haitian "independence" from France. France forced Haiti to pay for the lost property (read: slaves) that were freed by independence, costing the Haitian economy something like 20 billion dollars of economic contribution... For daring to free slaves. But oh no my agreements!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

All Cuba has to do is go to the negotiating table. It is good for their propaganda to not do so and they don't need Guantanamo for anything.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

All Haiti has to do was send it's slaves back to France, I really don't see the problem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are you really equating the U.S. sending a yearly uncashed check and keeping a Naval base at the ass end of Cuba with people being enslaved?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You should maybe read up on Haitian independence...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So you are saying a U.S. naval base at the ass-end of Cuba is the same as human enslavement?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Look back at your original comment and come back. Read carefully, like they taught you in primary school.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Okay, this was my original comment:

Because of a 1903 lease agreement with no end date which the post-revolutionary government has not gone back on so far. They protest it, but they have yet to actually say the terms have changed. And they also have a backlog of U.S. money waiting for them when they wish to renegotiate. Don’t underestimate the PR boost having a U.S. naval base on Cuban soil gives to the Cuban government the same way having North Korea and South Korea share a border is good propaganda for both countries.

https://lemmy.world/comment/10620270

Now- are you saying a U.S. naval base at the ass-end of Cuba is the same as human enslavement?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Good, now read what Castro actually said on the issue (when he wasn't busy being assassinated by the CIA).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Are you going to continue to troll and violate civility rules or are you going to answer my question?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you refuse to read what Castro actually said, that's hardly my problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm not asking about Castro, I'm asking about you: are you saying a U.S. naval base at the ass-end of Cuba is the same as human enslavement?

It's a yes or no question and you can't seem to answer. Are you trolling?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are you? You don't seem to be listening.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I'll take that as a yes and act accordingly as a moderator.