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  • Microsoft inadvertently highlighted the benefits of using a local account over a Microsoft account on Windows 11 in a recent support page update.
  • Using a local account allows for offline sign-in, is independent of cloud services, and limits settings, files, and applications to a single device, enhancing privacy.
  • Despite these benefits, Microsoft requires internet access or workarounds for the initial setup of Windows 11, making it challenging to use a local account from the start.
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[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Thr FN part is notable if you have a recent computer. A lot of laptops and keyboards ship out with media keys as the default on the top row now, and you must hold the FN key to use F10. Lot of people don't realize this and think Shift+F10 isn't working.

Possibly an easier option: you can let it connect to the internet, and then when it tells you to set up a Microsoft account, click on "Other sign in options" (or whatever it says beneath the text box). Then select "Domain Join instead". It'll let you use a local account, expecting you to join it to a domain later, then you just...don't join it to a domain.

Always be sure to use something like O&O ShutUp10 or Winaero Tweaker after you reach the desktop, so you can shut off all the bullshit, otherwise it will keep harassing you to make an account. I think you need to uninstall OneDrive too, to stop it hijacking the address bar in file explorer with constant nagging to set it up

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Good info, but everyone should know that Windows 11 Home can not join domains, and the option will not be there. Only Pro, Enterprise, and Education versions can do that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, that's true. But I'm kind of going off the assumption anybody that actually wants to use a local account is somebody who knows better than to use the Home edition. Without group policy and a couple of the other configurable points, I'm not sure how viable it even is to use Home anymore if you want Microsoft off your back.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

There is a 3rd party tool that gives you some GP functionality even on home edition: PolicyPlus

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Everyone that buys a laptop with home and "is into IT" shouldnt buy a laptop anyway. And you can get cheap sealed OEM stickers on ebay.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

. A lot of laptops and keyboards ship out with media keys as the default on the top row now

That's always the first setting I disable in the UEFI. I hate it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I use the media keys much more frequently than I need Function keys.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

In that case, it makes sense. I guess it differs depending on use case.

I'm a developer and am stepping through code in a debugger pretty frequently, which makes heavy use of the F keys. I use the F keys far more often than the media keys.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Usually notebooks ship with a fn lock function.
On our hp notebooks its fn + shift.
Now the keys work like regular Fx keys and for the function you need to press the fn key first.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Instructions unclear, I installed something called “Project Bluefin”?