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  • Microsoft inadvertently highlighted the benefits of using a local account over a Microsoft account on Windows 11 in a recent support page update.
  • Using a local account allows for offline sign-in, is independent of cloud services, and limits settings, files, and applications to a single device, enhancing privacy.
  • Despite these benefits, Microsoft requires internet access or workarounds for the initial setup of Windows 11, making it challenging to use a local account from the start.
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[–] [email protected] 140 points 5 months ago (10 children)

Since they mentioned the workarounds but didn't explain them, I'm copying my comment from another post a couple of weeks ago.

Lemmy probably isn’t the target audience for this, here’s the steps to bypass the MS account requirement when setting up W11:

Configure your keyboard, but before you select your wifi network press Shift+(Fn)+F10 to open Command Prompt.

Type in the following command and press enter. Your computer will reboot: oobe\bypassnro

After the reboot, configure your keyboard and location settings, and click the option at the bottom of the page to say that you don’t want to connect to the internet

Click the link on the next page to “Continue with limited setup”, then follow the prompts to enter a username and password.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 months ago (1 children)

or write your windows ISO using rufus and check the "no MS account" checkbox.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

That was SO TIGHT when I saw that option recently when I reinstalled windows ❤️

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Thr FN part is notable if you have a recent computer. A lot of laptops and keyboards ship out with media keys as the default on the top row now, and you must hold the FN key to use F10. Lot of people don't realize this and think Shift+F10 isn't working.

Possibly an easier option: you can let it connect to the internet, and then when it tells you to set up a Microsoft account, click on "Other sign in options" (or whatever it says beneath the text box). Then select "Domain Join instead". It'll let you use a local account, expecting you to join it to a domain later, then you just...don't join it to a domain.

Always be sure to use something like O&O ShutUp10 or Winaero Tweaker after you reach the desktop, so you can shut off all the bullshit, otherwise it will keep harassing you to make an account. I think you need to uninstall OneDrive too, to stop it hijacking the address bar in file explorer with constant nagging to set it up

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Good info, but everyone should know that Windows 11 Home can not join domains, and the option will not be there. Only Pro, Enterprise, and Education versions can do that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, that's true. But I'm kind of going off the assumption anybody that actually wants to use a local account is somebody who knows better than to use the Home edition. Without group policy and a couple of the other configurable points, I'm not sure how viable it even is to use Home anymore if you want Microsoft off your back.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

There is a 3rd party tool that gives you some GP functionality even on home edition: PolicyPlus

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Everyone that buys a laptop with home and "is into IT" shouldnt buy a laptop anyway. And you can get cheap sealed OEM stickers on ebay.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

. A lot of laptops and keyboards ship out with media keys as the default on the top row now

That's always the first setting I disable in the UEFI. I hate it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I use the media keys much more frequently than I need Function keys.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

In that case, it makes sense. I guess it differs depending on use case.

I'm a developer and am stepping through code in a debugger pretty frequently, which makes heavy use of the F keys. I use the F keys far more often than the media keys.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Usually notebooks ship with a fn lock function.
On our hp notebooks its fn + shift.
Now the keys work like regular Fx keys and for the function you need to press the fn key first.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Instructions unclear, I installed something called “Project Bluefin”?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy probably isn’t the target audience for this, here’s the steps to bypass the MS account requirement when setting up W11:

"Install Linux"

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

I use arch btw

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Newer versions won't allow you run the command prompt in the initial setup environment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I successfully did it on a brand new Inspiron laptop yesterday morning. I do regular device configs for my organization, and the moment this stops working, I'll be here to rage about it!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's good. I had to install from and older iso.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Out of curiosity, is that W11 Home or Pro? I don't deal with home at all, I wonder if that's the difference.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I think it was Home. I never completed the OOBE to find out.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Thanks for reminding me about this!

We used to use that method for the company I was working for. We would setup laptops in advance and they were in the early process of setting up intune. Since we didn't have a user account, we'd use your method to continue setup to get to the desktop.

I think we'd then run commands in pwershell to have the machine appear on intune.

It was a good few years ago and it was a very annoying, arduous time. They worked out the kinks eventually and that was no longer required.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I still find it funmy how seemingly everyone in an earlier threat knew about a dummy e-mail to bypass it but not about the oobe command.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Or just select local domain login.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Good to know. thanks!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

there is another way in W.Pro: choose "for Buisness or education", and then "To later join a domain"