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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Here is where I gave up reading lol

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

WhatsApp does use that same Signal protocol for its messages but that's very poor writing considering all the tracked metadata arguably makes it just as insecure as Telegram.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

Ownership by Facebook renders WhatsApp inherently untrustworthy.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So the Hunter Biden case is a complete farce but I found it alarming that they were proving WhatsApp messages as evidence during the trial. Clearly the messages aren't encrypted against Meta, or they hold keys users don't know about or they wouldn't be able to furnish messages.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Or possibly a user's phone who was a party to the Whatsapp conversation was collected as evidence and unlocked by the user.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Good point, had not considered that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

I might be missing the point, but isn’t this a decently dumbed-down description of the difference between services that are end-to-end encrypted and those that are not?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are you saying that is wrong?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

'Truly secure' and 'whatsapp' don't belong in the same sentence, I don't know what else to say but that it is laughable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Ah, gotcha. I thought your gripe was with the encrypted vs end to end encrypted bit.